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Originally Posted by gasparspeed View Post

Overclocking on socket 939 does get affected by RAM module capacity and slots used, try getting the same clocks from a single 512MB stick and 4x1GB sticks (considering that all the sticks are exactly the same in stock clocks and timings). I bet you won't get the same result.
Also, as Mr.Scott said, proof is always a must when writing things like "I DO HOLD THE WORLD RECORD AS THE FASTEST 1GB DIMM IN THE WORLD THAT IS CAPABLE OF 2-2-2-5". Now, show us somthing to proof that sentence, you didn't even said what modules you're using.

Also, GPU doesn't affect overclock (except maybe when using iGPU)

This is why you should always buy in kit format. Manufacturers are changing the specification without changing revision (sometimes) this is why four DIMM can sometimes have problem.

You will know if you have a problem if you need to put certain DIMM in a certain order. This does not fix the problem, all the user has done has move it to another address space so that it does not show up as often.

Ever wonder why some users may get "windows has encountered a problem" or a program just exit, I can confirm some of this can sometimes be memory related even when it is not overclocked.

if you can buy memory in a kit of four or more, it is likely to perform better, as their have been tested to work together.

You need to understand what causing these errors, and where the faults are. I can't see a manufacturer supplying four DIMM slot knowing that using all 4 slots will cause a fault. Nevertheless using all 4 slots should not effect stability.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 12:25am
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This is why you should always buy in kit format. Manufacturers are changing the specification without changing revision (sometimes) this is why four DIMM can sometimes have problem.

You will know if you have a problem if you need to put certain DIMM in a certain order. This does not fix the problem, all the user has done has move it to another address space so that it does not show up as often.

Ever wonder why some users may get "windows has encountered a problem" or a program just exit, I can confirm some of this can sometimes be memory related even when it is not overclocked.

if you can buy memory in a kit of four or more, it is likely to perform better, as their have been tested to work together.

You need to understand what causing these errors, and where the faults are. I can't see a manufacturer supplying four DIMM slot knowing that using all 4 slots will cause a fault. Nevertheless using all 4 slots should not effect stability.

Thank you for stating the obvious which once again has proven nothing while dodging the issue of providing any real proof of your claim(s).

I don't care if you're testing or whatever, until such proof has been provided I cannot believe your claim and you have earned no credibility over it, making it the same as spam1.gif to me.

So..... Go ahead and keep talking without showing any proof, no one will take you seriously until you actually show it.
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Thank you for stating the obvious which once again has proven nothing while dodging the issue of providing any real proof of your claim(s).

I don't care if you're testing or whatever, until such proof has been provided I cannot believe your claim and you have earned no credibility over it, making it the same as spam1.gif to me.

So..... Go ahead and keep talking without showing any proof, no one will take you seriously until you actually show it.
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You have to trust me on this, I can see everything most errors in memory which some software can't detect. I know everything down to the location with "absolute precision".

When four slots are used, depending on quality of memory, errors can be present, but windows seems to work fine even with these errors present.

Some software may not detect these errors, but it is there.

Errors can also be present in just one memory module only, but as the banks get filled up that error is more exposed.

Even my memory when overclock at max speed, I can see errors, but windows works perfect.

I need help with a modified BIOS to complete testing, then I will prove most what I am saying.

The other website know I am not SPAM/FUD look how long I have been a user there.

If user(s) thing this is SPAM/FUD, then I am happy to be removed/banned from this website.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 2:37am
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You have to trust me on this, I can see everything most errors in memory which some software can't detect. I know everything down to the location with "absolute precision".

When four slots are used, depending on quality of memory, errors can be present, but windows seems to work fine even with these errors present.

Some software may not detect these errors, but it is there.

Errors can also be present in just one memory module only, but as the banks get filled up that error is more exposed.

Even my memory when overclock at max speed, I can see errors, but windows works perfect.

I need help with a modified BIOS to complete testing, then I will prove most what I am saying.

The other website know I am not SPAM/FUD look how long I have been a user there.

If user(s) thing this is SPAM/FUD, then I am happy to be removed/banned from this website.
You didn't got it... What i was telling doesn't have anything to do with module Revision. Even If you could get 4 exactly the same 1GB modules. Using 4 would made more difficult overclock/getting high clocks than using only 1 or 2. It's a fact. Because you are stressing more the IMC.
Also. I think all of this is just nonsense. Now you can "magically see errors even when X error checking program can't". What is going to be the next thing? Getting 4Ghz on air on that motherboard?

I won't believe anything you said until you show some proof...
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The other website know I am not SPAM/FUD look how long I have been a user there.

If user(s) thing this is SPAM/FUD, then I am happy to be removed/banned from this website.

Instead of this WORLD RECORD E-PEEN ego boosting -garbage, why don't you help us get 16GB on our s939 setups?? This whole my 1GB is faster than yours, derp derp, we don't care man... Help us evolve our machine's, and push higher and higher RAM capacities. We already hit 8GB, and someone SOMEHOW got 16GB...

Help and quit being snobby. None of us are impressed... Except at those CL 1.5 screens Scotty submitted... those are slick.

Ego's get smashed on OCN, hence the disturbance in the thread with Scott and others of us hopping in to correct it. Threaten to obliterate, and obliteration is what happened... lol

And what sucks, Scotty is the only one here who can mod a BIOS that I know, and you haven't really gotten on his good side. lol x2

Good luck!
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You have to trust me on this.....

No I don't.
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When four slots are used, depending on quality of memory, errors can be present, but windows seems to work fine even with these errors present.
Some software may not detect these errors, but it is there.

Another obvious, non-informative statement we already know as fact.
Doesn't matter how many slots are used, errors can be present regardless of sticks and whatever else.
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Errors can also be present in just one memory module only, but as the banks get filled up that error is more exposed.

It's called a bad stick of RAM.
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Even my memory when overclock at max speed, I can see errors, but windows works perfect.

Works perfect yet has errors you can see.... Yeah, right.
Put that back in the can dude. spam1.gif
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I need help with a modified BIOS to complete testing, then I will prove most what I am saying.

Good luck with that.....
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Originally Posted by delshay View Post

The other website know I am not SPAM/FUD look how long I have been a user there.

If user(s) thing this is SPAM/FUD, then I am happy to be removed/banned from this website.

Length/time of membership on a site isn't proof of that, posted content is such proof - Looks to me you're just trolling along here by what you're posting up.

Guys I'm going to ignore this BS from this point on and be done with it since that's all it is anyway.
Done.
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what the heck is going on here?

back up what you are saying instead of trying to convince people.

instead of being a little baby about certain things, help people expand use on the platform.


being able to overclock both cpu and ram while running 8gb or 16gb would be a heck of a challenge and super awesome.


who cares about having the fastest 1gb?

the fastest 1gb will still perform slower than the slowest 4gb worth of memory with today's software demands.


jeez. somebody didnt get hit when they were a kid
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what the heck is going on here?

back up what you are saying instead of trying to convince people.

instead of being a little baby about certain things, help people expand use on the platform.


being able to overclock both cpu and ram while running 8gb or 16gb would be a heck of a challenge and super awesome.


who cares about having the fastest 1gb?

the fastest 1gb will still perform slower than the slowest 4gb worth of memory with today's software demands.


jeez. somebody didnt get hit when they were a kid

I posted in this thread to ask for help with bios edit, now its turning on its head because I will not show what i have. Now I am going to make it clear.

I will not show what I have here until all test is completed. Think I start my own thread and ask for help.
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I posted in this thread to ask for help with bios edit, now its turning on its head because I will not show what i have. Now I am going to make it clear.

I will not show what I have here until all test is completed. Think I start my own thread and ask for help.

It has been said a couple of times now, the only one (AFAIK) that could maybe do that BIOS edit you need (that IMHO is still impossible to do since that motherboard is just... Let's just say it's not good for overclocking instead of using other words) is Mr.Scott. Arguing with Scott is not a good way to get him to mod your BIOS rolleyes.gif
     
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Instead of this WORLD RECORD E-PEEN ego boosting -garbage, why don't you help us get 16GB on our s939 setups?? This whole my 1GB is faster than yours, derp derp, we don't care man... Help us evolve our machine's, and push higher and higher RAM capacities. We already hit 8GB, and someone SOMEHOW got 16GB...

Help and quit being snobby. None of us are impressed... Except at those CL 1.5 screens Scotty submitted... those are slick.

Ego's get smashed on OCN, hence the disturbance in the thread with Scott and others of us hopping in to correct it. Threaten to obliterate, and obliteration is what happened... lol

And what sucks, Scotty is the only one here who can mod a BIOS that I know, and you haven't really gotten on his good side. lol x2

Good luck!

no matter how fast 512mb is, it has little use in todays applications & 4GB is now struggling at lease for me.. 8GB now seems the minimum.

if scotty can edit bios, why did he not say so. ..and stop trying to stir trouble up.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 1:14pm
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