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It has been said a couple of times now, the only one (AFAIK) that could maybe do that BIOS edit you need (that IMHO is still impossible to do since that motherboard is just... Let's just say it's not good for overclocking instead of using other words) is Mr.Scott. Arguing with Scott is not a good way to get him to mod your BIOS rolleyes.gif

it overclocks here ok. you have to change the northbridge & southbridge heatsink this is mandatory if you overclock. Even the on-board GFX overclocks to 1025MHz more than double.

FX-60 @2.950MHz 1.375v. it need a good power supply which I do have. cooling is important & is key to getting the best out of it.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 1:29pm
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no matter how fast 512mb is, it has little use in todays applications & 4GB is now struggling at lease for me.. 8GB now seems the minimum.

if scotty can edit bios, why did he not say so. ..and stop trying to stir trouble up.

Well, in this same thread there has been a couple of users (at least) that gor 8GB running without problems on Socket 939 (even overclocking CPU and RAM!) and one user got also 16GB working.
     
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it overclocks here ok. you have the change the northbridge & southbridge heatsink this is mandatory if you overclock. Even the on-board GFX overclocks to 1025MHz more than double. FX-60 @2.950MHz 1.375v. it need a good power supply which I do have. cooling is important & is key to getting the best out of it.

True, BUT, still, it's still a low end motherboard, and that could limit too (specially in terms of voltage options and also maybe timing options). I'm not saying you can't overclock on those ,heck, my ASRock 939NF4G-SATAII is pretty similar to your motherboard, and did overclock nicely my X2 4200+, but then i got the DFI NF4 Infinity and oh man, that is such a nice board compared to the ASRock, and it's not even a high end DFI.

You can check what DFI Lanparty NF4s can do, those things are beasts for overclocking.

EDIT: Also, ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe (or Premium, don't remember which name was) is the only (known) board supporting 8GB (and 16GB) of memory
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True, BUT, still, it's still a low end motherboard, and that could limit too (specially in terms of voltage options and also maybe timing options). I'm not saying you can't overclock on those ,heck, my ASRock 939NF4G-SATAII is pretty similar to your motherboard, and did overclock nicely my X2 4200+, but then i got the DFI NF4 Infinity and oh man, that is such a nice board compared to the ASRock, and it's not even a high end DFI.

You can check what DFI Lanparty NF4s can do, those things are beasts for overclocking.

I wanted a small case and only four slots at the back this is why I picked this motherboard.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 2:35pm
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its the heatsink. it get too hot & locks-up the computer.

Northbridge has Thermalright HR-05/IFX which does not block the mini PCI-E slot

Southbridge has Hyperbridge PC-NBHP1. This heatsink has a fan which directly cools the side of R9 Nano.

CPU is cooled by Zalman I think it the 8700 which also cools Northbridge, Ram & back (PCB side) of R9 Nano.

it can go 3GHz+, but I can't control the heat when voltage is raised to 1.45v, so max voltage is 1.4.

I think this motherboard needs a flower type CPU cooler, to cool all components around it. Even the CPU regulators get cooled by the Zalman.

All heatsinks have heatpipe(s)

Heatpipes only help conducting heat, they don't dissipate heat (well not as much as a heatsink itself). But i think the main difference between your setup and mine (except hardware itself, i'm referring to cooling) is that, even tho my heatsink is worse than yours (at least, that's what i think) my 2x92mm Deltas help alot. A couple of high-flow fans always help. When running my FX-60 @ 3Ghz and 1.568V my Idle speeds (didn't stress test much the CPU) were arround 45 ºC (maybe like 3ºC higher than on stock on the same setup), with both Deltas blasting at full speed.

I'm running on my DFI NF4 Infinity the stock (almost non-existent) NorthBridge heatsink with the stock fan at 100%, it does get hot, pretty hot (50-60ºC IIRC), but even then it runs nicely (also, the fan is covered by the gigantic 8800GTX Accelero that basically heats up even more the NB)

Also, for your pruposes i suggest having at least 1 fan pointing at the RAM directly (you'll need tons of voltage if you even want to try getting CL1, with I still say it's impossible...)

Also as a side note, it's not only the NB/SB temperature, my 939NF4G-SATAII did not overclock past a certain point where even with one of my Deltas pointed directly onto the Northbridge wouldn't still boot to Windows, in your case it may be different, but stability is not only depending on temperature, there's tons of things that can make a PC unstable.
     
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Heatpipes only help conducting heat, they don't dissipate heat (well not as much as a heatsink itself). But i think the main difference between your setup and mine (except hardware itself, i'm referring to cooling) is that, even tho my heatsink is worse than yours (at least, that's what i think) my 2x92mm Deltas help alot. A couple of high-flow fans always help. When running my FX-60 @ 3Ghz and 1.568V my Idle speeds (didn't stress test much the CPU) were arround 45 ºC (maybe like 3ºC higher than on stock on the same setup), with both Deltas blasting at full speed.

I'm running on my DFI NF4 Infinity the stock (almost non-existent) NorthBridge heatsink with the stock fan at 100%, it does get hot, pretty hot (50-60ºC IIRC), but even then it runs nicely (also, the fan is covered by the gigantic 8800GTX Accelero that basically heats up even more the NB)

Also, for your pruposes i suggest having at least 1 fan pointing at the RAM directly (you'll need tons of voltage if you even want to try getting CL1, with I still say it's impossible...)

Also as a side note, it's not only the NB/SB temperature, my 939NF4G-SATAII did not overclock past a certain point where even with one of my Deltas pointed directly onto the Northbridge wouldn't still boot to Windows, in your case it may be different, but stability is not only depending on temperature, there's tons of things that can make a PC unstable.

FX-60 idle 39-41c & max load 58c-62c, but settles at around 59c-61c at full load on CPU/GFX when PWM fans catches up.

Temperature on FX-60 is better than above. R9 Nano put out so much heat its affecting everything around it & driving up case temperature.

I have a intake (with filter) & outake Fan (Noctua 92mm)

That's also what special about my ram, it has no heatsink when it should have. I already pointed this out many times in this thread, it operates at a lower voltage 2.65v & max is 2.7v. There's more to this ram than most user are thinking. just have to wait until all test are completed.

But my computer is not completed yet & is still work in progress..
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 3:30pm
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Let me see if I've got this right...

Someone is bragging about being the world record master on DDR1 overclock and so on, but in between says such nonsense's like using an entry level motherboard like the ASRock (that back then was very poor in quality) with a bad power management, a bad construction quality and a AMD785G chip7 that is not designed to handle high speed RAM's and not very good for extreme overclock....

Hummm...

Adding to that, he is using windows 7 to full fill this accomplishment when everybody knows that Windows XP is the best OS to use when OCing 939 sockets and DDR1... A good old school OCer should know that you do not need to tweak your bios unless you need to mess around with voltages, everything else is accomplished by using a tool called clockgen or A64 Tweaker...

But, hey, I know nothing about this subject! hehehe


EDIT:
@Mr.Scott I thing I have one of those Geil One kits laying around here some were too... They've made too different kits, one DDR400/DDR500 and another one DDR500/DDR600 if I am not mistaken...

Here's mine:
Edited by CrazyMonkey - 6/20/16 at 3:54pm
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Heatpipes only help conducting heat, they don't dissipate heat (well not as much as a heatsink itself). But i think the main difference between your setup and mine (except hardware itself, i'm referring to cooling) is that, even tho my heatsink is worse than yours (at least, that's what i think) my 2x92mm Deltas help alot. A couple of high-flow fans always help. When running my FX-60 @ 3Ghz and 1.568V my Idle speeds (didn't stress test much the CPU) were arround 45 ºC (maybe like 3ºC higher than on stock on the same setup), with both Deltas blasting at full speed.

I'm running on my DFI NF4 Infinity the stock (almost non-existent) NorthBridge heatsink with the stock fan at 100%, it does get hot, pretty hot (50-60ºC IIRC), but even then it runs nicely (also, the fan is covered by the gigantic 8800GTX Accelero that basically heats up even more the NB)

Also, for your pruposes i suggest having at least 1 fan pointing at the RAM directly (you'll need tons of voltage if you even want to try getting CL1, with I still say it's impossible...)

Also as a side note, it's not only the NB/SB temperature, my 939NF4G-SATAII did not overclock past a certain point where even with one of my Deltas pointed directly onto the Northbridge wouldn't still boot to Windows, in your case it may be different, but stability is not only depending on temperature, there's tons of things that can make a PC unstable.

I also have 4GB DDR 500 & it clocks 560Mhz on this motherboard. don't know about stability, did not run it long enough.
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Let me see if I've got this right...

Someone is bragging about being the world record master on DDR1 overclock and so on, but in between says such nonsense's like using an entry level motherboard like the ASRock (that back then was very poor in quality) with a bad power management, a bad construction quality and a AMD785G chip7 that is not designed to handle high speed RAM's and not very good for extreme overclock....

Hummm...

Adding to that, he is using windows 7 to full fill this accomplishment when everybody knows that Windows XP is the best OS to use when OCing 939 sockets and DDR1... A good old school OCer should know that you do not need to tweak your bios unless you need to mess around with voltages, everything else is accomplished by using a tool called clockgen or A64 Tweaker...

But, hey, I know nothing about this subject! hehehe


EDIT:
@Mr.Scoot I thing I have one of those Geil One kits laying around here some were too... They've made too different kits, one DDR400/DDR500 and another one DDR500/DDR600 if I am not mistaken...

I have already pointed out what needs to be changed to get the best out of this motherboard.

DDR500 overclocks to 560Mhz 4GB

you be eating those words & to tell you the truth, I can't wait. everyone who disbelieve me or make me to be SPAM/FUD you may end up editing your posting , because my memory is real.

its only the fastest "1GB" memory module with "2-2-2-5 timing only" there are four of them 4GB total clocking beyond 223MHz.
Edited by delshay - 6/20/16 at 4:05pm
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