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Originally Posted by rhkcommander959 View Post

Amazing, I wonder what ASUS did right that the other manufacturers didnt....?

That board is very similar to the dfi cfx3200. Maybe not close enough for a bios swap though
Not close at all.
DFI is Award bios. Asus is AMI.
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For a 24/7 board, the CFX3200-DR is still my favourite.
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Darn, Wishful thinking.

If it was just a lack of trace wiring to the mem I would get pinouts sheets and solder some ribbon cables mad-scientist style. I think my asus came today, I will check when I'm home smile.gif
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I have been away for a while, lots of problems & fixes. Here is a list of changes here.

CPU LAPPING.

FX-60 has been lapped. Lapping was done by buying a cheap 939 motherboard for next to nothing. Cut around the socket from faulty/useless motherboard & place FX-60 in the socket.

Now there is no risk in breaking any CPU pins, you can even drop it on the floor without breaking a single pin.

Lap CPU on flat glass table using sandpaper grit 400 up-to 2500 grit to get a Copper Mirror Finish.

There is a change here, CPU seems to overclock better, & It seems it can now almost hit 3.1GHz on air but still lock-up, but I think the problem is the VRM.


VRM

With the lapped CPU it seems its the VRM that needs cooling, but not sure at this stage, but you should see a drop in CPU temperature.


OTHER CHANGES:

MOTHERBOARD SPEAKER

This does not seem important, but it is, if you "overclock".

Here, if there is an error in memory the buzzer will go off. The computer may still continue to work & may not crash. It is not often you will here this buzzer if at all, but if an error occurs it will let you know.

Because the speaker is important here, the four pin header has been removed from the motherboard & replaced with a speaker soldered direct to the motherboard.

UPGRADED 5.25 DISPLAY

I have upgraded my display from NMedia PRO to Matrix Obital GTT, as I need more information displayed about my system. Its up & running in the 5.25 bay but needs to be config.

https://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=1588

INFARED REMOTE CONTROL

This has been added in the floppy bay. Its not config yet.

I am told windows can read/learn "any remote control" (its already built-in into windows). You can even turn the computer on from sleep & do almost anything.

Not sure if any of this is true, but the infared active LED is responding to my TV remote control, but this also needs to be config.
Edited by delshay - 7/21/16 at 3:23am
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I have been away for a while, lots of problems & fixes. Here is a list of changes here.

CPU LAPPING.

FX-60 has been lapped. Lapping was done by buying a cheap 939 motherboard for next to nothing. Cut around the socket from faulty/useless motherboard & place FX-60 in the socket.

Now there is no risk in breaking any CPU pins, you can even drop it on the floor without breaking a single pin.

Lap CPU on flat glass table using sandpaper grit 400 up-to 2500 grit to get a Copper Mirror Finish.

There is a change here, CPU seems to overclock better, & It seems it can now almost hit 3.1GHz on air but still lock-up, but I think the problem is the VRM.


VRM

With the lapped CPU it seems its the VRM that needs cooling, but not sure at this stage, but you should see a drop in CPU temperature.


OTHER CHANGES:

MOTHERBOARD SPEAKER

This does not seem important, but it is, if you "overclock".

Here, if there is an error in memory the buzzer will go off. The computer may still continue to work & may not crash. It is not often you will here this buzzer if at all, but if an error occurs it will let you know.

Because the speaker is important here, the four pin header has been removed from the motherboard & replaced with a speaker soldered direct to the motherboard.

Do you have any validation on that FX-60 @ 3.1Ghz? I would like to see what VCore are you running to compare it to my FX-60@3.0Ghz.
     
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Do you have any validation on that FX-60 @ 3.1Ghz? I would like to see what VCore are you running to compare it to my FX-60@3.0Ghz.

No

the computer locks-up after about say 2-3mins. It does not hit 3.1GHz its just under and its not stable @1.425v. But this is the first time I have ever seen it get near to 3.1GHz. But I have a feeling VRM needs heatsinks on them.

I lapped the CPU so you can see reflections. Its not a perfect mirror finish and I should have done a better job.
Edited by delshay - 7/21/16 at 3:50am
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No

the computer locks-up after about say 2-3mins. It does not hit 3.1GHz its just under and its not stable @1.425v. But this is the first time I have ever seen it get near to 3.1GHz. But I have a feeling VRM needs heatsinks on them.

I lapped the CPU so you can see reflections. Its not a perfect mirror finish and I should have done a better job.[/quote]

Well, if you're still on that ASRock m-ATX board then you probably won't be able to overclock much... VRMs will get toasty with that FX-60.
Mine needed 1.52V set on BIOS and 1.568V reading from CPU-Z to be stable enough to boot to WinXP and make a validation. Probably could have got it with a bit lower VCore but it was more of a test than a real overclock to bench.
     
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I've owned two FX-60s in my time, and neither could do 3ghz stable, even at 1.5+vCore. Also in my premature OC'ing days, but still. They couldn't do crap for me
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No

the computer locks-up after about say 2-3mins. It does not hit 3.1GHz its just under and its not stable @1.425v. But this is the first time I have ever seen it get near to 3.1GHz. But I have a feeling VRM needs heatsinks on them.

I lapped the CPU so you can see reflections. Its not a perfect mirror finish and I should have done a better job.

Well, if you're still on that ASRock m-ATX board then you probably won't be able to overclock much... VRMs will get toasty with that FX-60.
Mine needed 1.52V set on BIOS and 1.568V reading from CPU-Z to be stable enough to boot to WinXP and make a validation. Probably could have got it with a bit lower VCore but it was more of a test than a real overclock to bench.[/quote]

The Asrock was chosen for a special reason, this is why I did not go for the more established motherboards.

I joined this site in-order to see if it is possible to do 1-1-1-x timings on DDR.

I cannot find what I did, where I got a big jump in performance, but I now know what is needed.

I need a 939 motherboard "bios" (anyone will do) with the bios edited. "just the bios" nothing else and I will do the rest.


MEMORY SPD TIMINGS

does anyone know what is the lowest TRFC can be set to. You can find this information in the memory bios timing & checking how low it can go.
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