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So while not entirely Socket 939, I'm wanting to try for the overall frequency records for Socket 939 and AM2, and maybe even the SuperPi and PiFast records (as well as wPrime on AM2).

I think I might just have the hardware for it.

Athlon FX-55 did 3,916.49 MHz on LN2 at only -40'c, it doesn't have a cold bug (I tested a full pot and it doesn't cold boot bug either) and 1.802v - I have a lot of cooling and voltage potential remaining and when I did the 3,916.49 MHz I had validations up to around 3,950 MHz which were corrupt. I think it's at least a 4 GHz chip, maybe better. It's a CABCE 0516WPMW, which is the same as all the 4 GHz FX-57s.

2x 256 MB BH-5 - 1x 256 MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 and 1x Mushkin Blackline Level 2 PC3500 - this (odd) set is paired as each stick individually can SuperPi 1M at 302 MHz and around 3.95v (I haven't yet tested the two together, I'd imagine 290 MHz or so). I have been through literally 50+ sticks of BH-5 looking for a decent pair.

Athlon X2 6000+ did 4,144 MHz on DICE at I-can't-remember-the-voltage, it has never been tested under LN2 so I've never had temperature control or been able to find the cold bug (I'm certain it will have one. It was once the fastest AM2 CPU in the world, but has been beaten since then. It's a CCB3F 0711VPMW.

2x 1 GB D9GMH - A Teem Xtreme kit rated at 400 MHz 4-4-4-12. Together they validated 600 MHz 3-3-3-9 at 3.375v and under DICE. I would imagine they can bench somewhere around 530-550 MHz.

On Socket 939 I know I am capable of an efficiency of sub 80,000 on air for SuperPi 1M - on LN2 I'd hoping for around 83,000 (it never scales perfectly frown.gif ) at my validation speed of 3916 MHz which would put me at #1 for S939.

The 6000+ has run SuperPi 1M at over 4 GHz (the score sucked hard as I was untweaked and running single channel - I was literally just checked what the CPU could do.

Losing my stuff lachen.gif.

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Hi, still lively here I see !

Some news from my place: My PC became so erratic,with unanttended reboots, I had to only keep 2 RAM DIMMs out of 4 (thus, 16Gb -> 8 Gb) as the heat of summer is growing...

Thanks to ebay, I was able to find :
- 1 thermaltake A1165 : DIMM heatsink with an active cooling above,
- 2 thermaltake A1989 : copper heatsinks,
- 2 thermaltake A1092 : aluminium heatsink (in case of I couldn't use the A1165, but I only used one)

As the CPU heatsink fan is right above the 1st DIMM, I wasn't able to set the active cooling on the 1st or 4th DIMM. I set it on the 2nd one, and it covers the 3rd and 4rd ones... Power is coming from the PSU monitoring plug (on the top right edge of the motherboard) wich (fortunately) provide current...

The 3rd & 4th DIMM, farther to the big CPU fan, got the 2 copper heatsink, and the one right under the CPU fan got one of the aluminium heatsinks...

A low quality picture of the whole, taken late in the night. Light is from a yellow flashlight...



Between the two last DIMMs is the wire of my case temp sensor. I went from ... above 90°C full load (2 DIMMs only) to 60°C maximum (all DIMMs in place & full load). From the Samsung Datasheet, it should't go above 70°... I'm lucky nothing has burnt here !

To test the whole thing, ECC disabled in bios, and boot to memtest86+. After 2h30, 1st pass, no error. After ... 6h30 more hours (!) 2nd pass and still ... no 1 bit of error. Yay !

I've spent today in Guildwars2, all video setting at max. Wow, so nice, it's not the same game (and the framerate is not often at 25 fps, but whatever) ... and NO crash.

I was sure I had problems because of my PAE hacked WinXP : no, it was only memory overheat !

For whose going the ECC memory way, check the temperature !

I may try some overclock later... But sorry, I've some GW2 maps to (re-)discover ! Cu !

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Change in plans, I couldn't find an easy way to make the Thermaltake 240mm aio work for direct die on the 4000+ so I had to go with the corsair H-60 instead.

The board had aftermarket heat sinks that got in the way of mounting any other cooler I had , but it seems to have worked out fine.









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Good to see you got it working Corky, let us know how far you can go with it. rolleyes.gif
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Good to see you got it working Corky, let us know how far you can go with it. rolleyes.gif

First DFI, first de-lidded chip = learning curve.

Having a little hiccup with the OS drive ( intel X25 SSD) for some reason - going to go back to an HDD with XP PRO .

I have a set of patriot 2 x 256mb (PDC5124400ELK) That I've managed to take to 320 mhz on the MSI K8 neo 4 - hoping to squeeze a little more out of them on this board.

Also hoping to get some good 3dmark 06 scores with it using the EVGA 9800GT AKIMBO's in sli or a couple 9800 GTX+'s ( one is pretty flaky though).
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First DFI, first de-lidded chip = learning curve.

Having a little hiccup with the OS drive ( intel X25 SSD) for some reason - going to go back to an HDD with XP PRO .

I have a set of patriot 2 x 256mb (PDC5124400ELK) That I've managed to take to 320 mhz on the MSI K8 neo 4 - hoping to squeeze a little more out of them on this board.

Also hoping to get some good 3dmark 06 scores with it using the EVGA 9800GT AKIMBO's in sli or a couple 9800 GTX+'s ( one is pretty flaky though).

For sure always go IDE when using older rigs, in my experience. SATA on older boards can be flaky as far as configurations go to make it work.
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For sure always go IDE when using older rigs, in my experience. SATA on older boards can be flaky as far as configurations go to make it work.

From about Socket 754 and back you are correct, some do fine while others flake out even if at first they did OK.
I'm not aware of any real problems with 939 setups but going back further than 754 you will experience these based on what board and whatnot the build is based on.

You can also buy SATA to IDE adapters, these will let you run a SATA drive with a board having only IDE ports but even these don't always work as I found out with mine.
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Lanparty Ultra D, SLI-D, SLI-DR, Expert, or Venus. All have NF4 chipset.
There are other DFI's that are not NF4. Don't make a mistake and get one of those.
DFI is also ram picky. I hope your's actually works in one.

I have a LANPARTY NF4 SLI-DR on its way. Will post result/screenshot if motherboard works. ..It is listed as working.

I will not be keeping this motherboard, its just for testing CL1.5-2-2-5 "4GB" & I may turn the wick up from 225MHz if it passes.

I repeat, I may turn it up, but like I said, I don't give into what user(s) demand or want. That will never change.

Thanks for your help
Edited by delshay - 7/25/16 at 1:03am
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Guys

My memory tell me error because I memtestx86 it, please don't steal I am still testing it. Top secret until work is done.

Lol




If I block him will I still have to read this junk?



I have one of those sapphire 939 boards, sadly mine is the black one. A whopping 4 phase power, pc-a9rd480adv. I remember the white ones looking neat.

If you are referring to me, I am more than happy to accept with immediate affect.

For those users that are interested, keep an eye on CPU-Z website by clicking on AMD icon in CPU-Z (FX-60 users only). It will not be there for a while, but it will appear, provided the website is not flooded with 3.1GHz+ CPU.

TOP SECRET

I love this part, I really do, because you are right in some parts. The only part that is incorrect is, it is not a secret. ..Testing is done completely different. But now it is locked & that information will never be released.. locked permanently.

What users should be thinking is,how did I get 4GB Unbuffered Memory working with those timing/frequency/voltage? This information is also permanently locked.

The only part I will now post/prove is the voltage of the DIMM, but I don't know any other software that can detect voltage of DIMM. ...& yes their can operate as low as 2.6v, but not at top end speed.

"smartguardian" can't find download.


ERRORS IN MEMORY MODULE(S)

I could explain a little more here, but this information is also locked. But ask yourself, if the errors were critical you would not be seeing screenshot, as I will be getting BSOD. ...also the motherboard speaker will sound an alarm if it detects "any error whatsoever".

I would not also be able to play DOOM which needs 8GB, but I have only 4GB & my LCD display shows upto 96% memory used when playing DOOM.

I will post a photo of my LCD display in the 5.25 bay which gives me LIVE information of CPU/MEMORY & other motherboard parameters.

Just for the record I maybe selling my old display (black panel), as I have upgraded.

http://www.nmediapc.com/prolcd.htm
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Well, it's no secret how you get the low memory timings. Probably the same "secret" how another guy did 273MHz with 4x1GB 2T. He tested his setup till he dropped. And it was a good IMC.

In case you didn't know: Memory timings like CL and so on are all related to the DIMMs, so if they can do the tight timings in single DIMM configs, they'll do this most likely in multi DIMM configs. On DFI boards you also get TRef.

But training the IMC is another part and keeping it all stable with the heavy load. That's where Command Rate kicks in, because this is not a memory timings, but a memory controller setting. It's the same with channel skew settings. Everything for stability, but Command Rate 2T destroys all the good memory performance. With 1T the whole system feels a bit smoother. Probably because of the much higher bandwidth the memory offers compared to 2T.
 
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