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I really have no idea if the Athlon64s had such support, but I do recall testing CAS 1.5 in some 754 and 939 setups, with inconclusive results. Some software detected CAS 1.5, but I never checked if the CPU register for it was actually set and benchmarks were close enough to margin of error to be ambiguous.

Thank You

That what I said in a early posting, but I am no expert in this area. Someone check the CPU docs then posted "there is no CL1.5 in the CPU register". I don't have access to the CPU documentation, and someone contacted AMD, and AMD did not give an answer. This all started when the first CL1.5 DIMM was first released.
Edited by delshay - 7/26/16 at 11:53am
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I know this is a long shot, but is anyone aware of any S754 or 939 boards with both AGP and ISA slots? Something that can OC would be ideal, but I'd take an industrial board if that's the only option.

I'd really like to consolidate all of my retro gaming stuff into a single box that can run my Voodoo4, my Aureal Vortex SQ2500, and my SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold, simultaneously. That way I could boot back and forth between PC DOS 2000 and Windows 98SE and run all my pre-21st century games, full tilt, as they were meant to be played, without any incompatibilities or the downsides of emulation. Just dug out 2x512MiB TwinMOS Speed Premium with Winbond CH-5 UTT chips. Last time I tested these I was able to run 2-3-2-6-T1 at 250MHz with 3.1-3.2v, stable. Back in the day I recall being able to get 280+MHz out of them with 3.4v. Would be great to put them to good use again.


Could you get away with using something like this on a MSI K8N Neo Platinum 754 ? http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html

Not sure they have one that works with the OS's you plan on using though

EDIT: just saw the price... wow lol
Edited by cssorkinman - 7/26/16 at 12:05pm
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Could you get away with using something like this on a MSI K8N Neo Platinum 754 ? http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html

Not sure they have one that works with the OS's you plan on using though

I'm almost positive I'd need chipset level ISA support with with DMA to correctly run an ISA sound card in native DOS. I've had some other setups fail to work with later ISA bridges. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Something like that would probably let me use an ISA soundcard in an emulated environment...not sure if I want to spend 150 bucks on one though.
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It should be easier to buy a complete socket 462 or 370 system. This is cheaper and grants you a true ISA slot.
The other way would be a deep study of LPC (low pin count interface) and some insane soldering action on the SuperIO chip of a motherboard to de-multiplex the signal to ISA. Not worth the effort, I think, but I'd be interested in reading about your progress tongue.gif
 
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Could you get away with using something like this on a MSI K8N Neo Platinum 754 ? http://arstech.com/install/ecom-prodshow/usb2isar.html

Not sure they have one that works with the OS's you plan on using though

I'm almost positive I'd need chipset level ISA support with with DMA to correctly run an ISA sound card in native DOS. I've had some other setups fail to work with later ISA bridges. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Something like that would probably let me use an ISA soundcard in an emulated environment...not sure if I want to spend 150 bucks on one though.

Yeah that's a bit ridiculous price wise.
Going to have to get lucky to find one on those platforms I'd think. K7 era had a few boards that should work, willing to go back that far?
Will a voodoo 4 work on agp 4X 8X?
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Not really the right place but was 2-2-2-7 or 2-2-2-11 faster on NF2?
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Not really the right place but was 2-2-2-7 or 2-2-2-11 faster on NF2?

2-2-2-11.
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Yeah that's a bit ridiculous price wise.
Going to have to get lucky to find one on those platforms I'd think. K7 era had a few boards that should work, willing to go back that far?
Will a voodoo 4 work on agp 4X 8X?

Yeah, there are some potential S462 and 478 options that would work well, if I can find them for the right price.

Voodoo4 will work in an AGP 4x slot, not certain about 8x.
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Not really the right place but was 2-2-2-7 or 2-2-2-11 faster on NF2?

tRAS 11 usually benched best on NForce 2, at least with two DIMMs.
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tRAS 11 usually benched best on NForce 2, at least with two DIMMs.
Depends. 2-2-2-5 always benches faster for me on NF2, and, commenting on your A64 CL1.5 statement., 1.5-2-2-5 always benches faster for me than 2-2-2-5 on that platform.
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1.5-2-2-5 always benches faster for me than 2-2-2-5 on that platform.

How much faster?
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