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Originally Posted by SwishaMane View Post

OH, thats the board you had... I thought it was the DFI one, MY BAD. I don't think the DFI CFX I mentioned is compatible then... my fault, my fault.

EDIT: I corrected my riginal post, but the error will live forever since Toughacton quoted it... lool

Hows that 8GB set doin ya man? Got it stable @ 1T? Did you use our BIOS settings?

ITs doing well. I may mess around with it a bit more, but i bumped it down to 2T and CL 2.5 so that i can get to 3.0GHz. Your settings did work up to about FSB of 202 (with divider) then BSODs galore. I haven't checked yet to see if i can lower the voltage at these settings. These seem to run quite a bit warmer than my old DIMMs. Currently I'm at 215Mhz 2.5 3 3 5 2T

It feels like the 1T Command rate really wont work much past 200 or so on these 4 DIMMS (though im impressed that it does that as every other set of 4 i have won't). At least with this CPU. I have a 170 I can try as well as a RAM slot fan, and Should be able to get 3+ GHZ and the 1T. Most of my stuff is in storage at the moment since we are trying to move, so it will probably have to wait. I'll be sure to update here though with the final settings when I get it dialed it though.
 
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RAM OVERHEATING

My memory was getting very hot, but it has improved. It's not the memory that's really getting hot, it's the "components" around it that's making the memory overheat. This is where the southbridge comes into play.

SOUTHBRIDGE COOLER

It's not really there to cool southbridge chip, even thou the southbridge needs cooling, but the main reason it is there is to cool the GFX card. this is one of four components besides the CPU/GFX that may need cooling.

You can use the Southbridge cooler to direct air at other components this is where something like "Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II" is handy, as you can rotate it and point it in any direction.

Take advantage of the southbridge cooler.

I can use the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II to cool the ram here but I don't, I use the hyperbridge to help cool the Nano as it can take a bigger fan 60mm, which is better than 40mm, but this all depends on what your trying to cool.

Here it's all about "overall case temperature" as this is where all of the components must live-in.
Front in-take fan (92mm) is used with a filter, this cool air is then picked up by the southbridge fan.

If I use the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II, I can point this cool air in any direction.

Here I always aim for the hottest device/component(s) and if you think your ram must be cooled, this is where a flower type CPU cooler comes in, as it cools all components around it. I was using a modified Zalman 7700 (blue PWM fan) but upgraded to Zalman 8700.

I have the Noctua NC-U6 on its way, which I may swap/change for the Hyperbridge, depending if it fits & can hold a bigger fan.

I also have Cooler Master Blue Ice 2 cooler which I don't use, but this cooler when fitted to my motherboard southbridge points towards the Ram, all four banks.
Edited by delshay - 7/30/16 at 1:38am
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It sounds like you need better case flow. If the ram is hot, the rest of the system is probably hot. Typically memory is the last thing you worry about for actively cooling unless overclocking and over-volting.

So what's the case? how are the fans configured?
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Hi,

These Samsung DIMMs are really hot by themselves. Without some active cooling in their area, it goes up fast above the 70° working temperature (I went past 90° with only half DIMMs populated...)

Here's how I get these DIMMs cooled :

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Can't say if it's noisy, my new power supply cover the noise of my other fans...

In normal use, I now have between 38° (idle) and ~50° (games). Even in memtest, it's still well below 70°. Ambiant is around 30° currently here.

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Hold the Phone.

I just spotted. My Asrock motherboard has four holes in each corner of the normal 939 bracket.

In total It has 6 holes.

Has anyone used the four holes in each corner to mount another type of cooler (if) it is present on your motherboard.

Removing the normal plastic bracket it says "RET_AM3" right next to one of the corner holes on the motherboard, I am almost sure this is incorrect..

All Asrock 939 motherboard seems to have this.
Edited by delshay - 7/31/16 at 4:38am
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Hold the Phone.

I just spotted. My Asrock motherboard has four holes in each corner of the normal 939 bracket.

In total It has 6 holes.

Has anyone used the four holes in each corner to mount another type of cooler (if) it is present on your motherboard.

Removing the normal plastic bracket it says "RET_AM3" right next to one of the corner holes on the motherboard, I am almost sure this is incorrect..

Just for the sake of replying, since this is actually true.
Yes, low-end ASRock motherboards do have 4 extra mounting holes under the stock mounting mechanism (no surprise here, at least for me), in my board it doesn't say RET_AM3 (logically, since it's a 2006 board and AM3 didn't exist at that time).
But IIRC i'm pretty certain those are AM3-compatible cooling mounting holes. With the correct AM3 hardware you could mount it, maybe it may require some modding to the mounting hardware, but not much...
     
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Just for the sake of replying, since this is actually true.
Yes, low-end ASRock motherboards do have 4 extra mounting holes under the stock mounting mechanism (no surprise here, at least for me), in my board it doesn't say RET_AM3 (logically, since it's a 2006 board and AM3 didn't exist at that time).
But IIRC i'm pretty certain those are AM3-compatible cooling mounting holes. With the correct AM3 hardware you could mount it, maybe it may require some modding to the mounting hardware, but not much...

Why is Asrock motherboard(s) low end? The southbridge 710 is used on motherboards with DDR2 & DDR3, or is it the motherboard (PCB) itself.
Edited by delshay - 7/31/16 at 4:57am
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Why is Asrock motherboard(s) low end? The southbridge 710 is used on motherboards with DDR2 & DDR3, or is it the motherboard (PCB) itself.
It is because of the quality of the components used and the amount of layers the PCB has. The price is cheap for a reason.
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It is because of the quality of the components used and the amount of layers the PCB has. The price is cheap for a reason.

OK..

But I did check the Mosfet(s) PDF docs, its not that bad.
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OK..

But I did check the Mosfet(s) PDF docs, its not that bad.

It is also a low end board (not all ASRocks, just yours and mine) because it's price tag, they aren't meant to do heavy overclocking. Just to be used as a regular PC system. That's why they lack BIOS features and other stuff, like more USB, SATAs, better audio, etc.
     
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