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@ G.O.
Dude, if you've got a messenger client you use regularly....hit me up (pioneerisloud for everything...hotmail's the email)!!! I could DRASTICALLY use your RAM expertise so I can get this RAM cranked up a little higher. I'd LOVE to be above 200MHz. And BTW...a CMOS reset DOES NOTHING. Been there, tried that.
sorry man, I haven't been on AIM in quite a while. I've been trying to get work done my pages.

I have been thinking about that motherboard and if I can find for a decent price I may buy one after this moving thing is done....btw I'm moving. My Sister and her Husband are loosing their house "where I have been staying" so I have find some place in the next month. In the mean time I'll try and find some timings for your RAM online and see if it can be pushed some more.

EDIT: Well dang Pio, looks like a lot of people are having issue with RAM on that motherboard.

EDIT2: Yep it's the motherboard. From reviews that RAM can run at some fairly decent timings. Most cases seem best as CAS 3-3-3-8 T1. I'm going to search and see if what solutions people found for that ASUS board.

LOL EDIT3: Try and contact ASUS about the RAM issue for that Mobo. From what I have seen searching, your RAM should have no issues hitting DDR500+ speeds. The problems lie in the Mobo. Not all of those model motherboards are affected by this, it seems like a random occurrence. There may be a BIOS fix for it that I can not find. So yeah I'd contact ASUS about the issue.
Edited by GuardianOdin - 6/24/08 at 11:03pm
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Roger that G.O.

I've contacted OCZ about this issue before (I know that's not Asus, but bear with me). They were on the phone with me for 4+ HOURS trying to help me set the timings on my motherboard. And I had the guy stumped.

I'm also on the LATEST OFFICIAL BIOS for my motherboard. I forget the number exactly...but there's been none released since it other than a beta BIOS...which I've tried and it did nothing for me.

I don't really want to RMA this board though because I'm afraid that I wouldn't get the same one back .
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Roger that G.O.

I've contacted OCZ about this issue before (I know that's not Asus, but bear with me). They were on the phone with me for 4+ HOURS trying to help me set the timings on my motherboard. And I had the guy stumped.

I'm also on the LATEST OFFICIAL BIOS for my motherboard. I forget the number exactly...but there's been none released since it other than a beta BIOS...which I've tried and it did nothing for me.

I don't really want to RMA this board though because I'm afraid that I wouldn't get the same one back .
Hmmm... I'm not sure what the solution would be, but by all accounts you should be able to run at your RAM's spec's. You have already tried a different set of sticks?
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Hmmm... I'm not sure what the solution would be, but by all accounts you should be able to run at your RAM's spec's. You have already tried a different set of sticks?
Well my old Corsair Value sticks (currently in Froggy's rig with some Samsungs as well)....ran at 200MHz 3-3-3-8-2T. At THE MOST, I could hit 208MHz with them. In HER motherboard, they hit 225+ (haven't tested higher), and STABLE at stock timings...WITH 4 sticks of RAM being used.

I've also tried my Kingston Hyper X DDR400 in my rig. It will ONLY run 200MHz 3-4-4-8-2T PERIOD. It WOULD NOT go any higher and pass OCCT or Orthos. In my HTPC board, those sticks would boot into Windows at 266MHz, and they were stable at 250MHz at 3-4-4-10-2T. Or at 200MHz 2-2-2-5-1T.

So yes, I've tried other RAM in my board. ALL of the RAM I've tried pretty much FAILS in my motherboard . Its sad really...this is supposed to be one of the best 939 boards out there, but I can't even run my RAM at spec.
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Going start posting some links that might help. I will edit this post as I find them.

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i like this thread...people talk!...lol

right...will turn down the PCIE back to 100 MHz then...

I have tried turning the FSB up a few times...
The highest i got to with Windows booting was 242...
but it came unstable playing games with crashes to desktop and the odd system freeze up...
BUT...
could that have been caused by the PCIE being to high rather than the FSB being to high?

With regards to the volts being supplied to the CPU...
how much more can the Opteron 180 take?...
How much of an OC can you get (on average) with 1.4v to that CPU?...


With regards to the RAM timings under BIOS...
What should i be changing?
BIOS - Auto
CPUZ Memory---2.5 / 3 / 3 / 7 / 10 / 2T / 16
CPUZ SPD------ 3 / 3 / 3 / 8 / ? / ? / ?
Edited by Valllldondo - 6/25/08 at 1:23am
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Well to answer a few of the questions for you (to the best of my ability):

1.50v is safe on air. But keep the temps in line as well. NO more than 65*C under full Orthos / OCCT load.
The overclock is dependant on your chip, and your chip alone. Your mileage WILL vary from others, even if they're the same stepping and week. So far you've done VERY well .

RAM:
Sounds like you're actually running them SLIGHTLY tighter than stock. That's okay. But if you're pushing for a higher CPU speed, you'd probably want them slightly looser...closer to stock speeds. Just change the option to manual in BIOS and change them till they match up with CPUz. Take notes of what settings are what in CPUz and your BIOS (hand write or print them)...that way you don't have to reset your CMOS too often before you get it right .
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what an ugly mess ASUS did with that Mobo. It seems like half work perfect and other half are junk. I'm not finding a lot in the way of BIOS mods. I'll keep looking.
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no I still haven't
And if the bong can control the processor heat, I may buy a GPU block
I used to be able to get the core to 723MHz, now I can't even get ATItool to open the 3d viewer for more than ~10 seconds AT STOCK (650 core) before my entire screen goes funny cyan and magenta colors, and then starts flickering rapidly (dying video card or just unstable?!?)
0% CPU use - 29 to 32 degrees
70-100% CPU use - 45 to 49 degrees


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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
Well to answer a few of the questions for you (to the best of my ability):

1.50v is safe on air. But keep the temps in line as well. NO more than 65*C under full Orthos / OCCT load.
The overclock is dependant on your chip, and your chip alone. Your mileage WILL vary from others, even if they're the same stepping and week. So far you've done VERY well .

RAM:
Sounds like you're actually running them SLIGHTLY tighter than stock. That's okay. But if you're pushing for a higher CPU speed, you'd probably want them slightly looser...closer to stock speeds. Just change the option to manual in BIOS and change them till they match up with CPUz. Take notes of what settings are what in CPUz and your BIOS (hand write or print them)...that way you don't have to reset your CMOS too often before you get it right .

so what setting should i be entering into BIOS?
SPD ones? = 3 / 3 / 3 / 8 / ? / ? / ?
or...
Memory Ones? = 2.5 / 3 / 3 / 7 / 10 / 2T / 16

When you say memory speed is tighter?...whats that mean?...
sorry for daft question...lol...
DDR400's stock speed is 200MHz?...
Mine are running as DDR333's (under BIOS), but OC'd from 166MHz to 192 MHz...
so is the memory not already running under stock speeds of DDR400's?
OR
does the FSB thing that is set to 241 mean the RAM is running at OC'd speeds?
this is why i have avoid memory OC all together so far...!...lol

as for volts...i can't go higher than 1.4v!
need to do the vcore mod with a solder iron!...not that brave!
just wondering how high people have got with just using stock volts OR 1.4v...

there is always the A8N32-SLI Deluxe is a blow up the current MB...
BUT...that A8N32-SLI Deluxe is prety dam expensive for an "older" board!

as for current performance....
3d05 v130 - 15,753 / 3886
3d06 v110 - 11,208 / 4740 / 6245 / 2174

are these scores any good?
i have asked in the benchmark thread, but got ZERO feedback what so ever...but seeing how people read the threads on this bit and come back to you on here, might as well ask...lol
Edited by Valllldondo - 6/25/08 at 1:49am
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I don't know, G.O.

I run the same motherboard as pio does, and mine is smooth and easy (I've actually had two of these; this is the second one, after the first went kaput and I RMAed it and was given a brand new one). I've run at least three or four different RAM kits/types on it, as well, and every single time it's been an easy, solid, capable board, no matter what type of RAM I run with it..

Of course, I don't run my CPU anywhere near the edge of its capability. But that's because I prefer rock-solid reliability over outright speed.

For what it's worth, pio, I'll take pictures of my BIOS settings for you tomorrow. Expect them in the afternoon. I'm beat right now and fighting a bit of a cold. I'm assuming that your RAM (DDR500) is also based on Infineon BE-5/CE-5 ICs like mine are, so we ought to have close-enough equivalent RAM settings.

Another person to ask about this board is veedub; he actually runs a modded BIOS on his (I've never tried that BIOS on my board).

Alright, gents, off to bed I go.
    
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