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the same for EVEREST? only detects them as pc3200 ddr400 ?
    
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Mine is overclocked. Catalyst control center is the fastest and easiest way to do it. 'Auto' is the way to go in my opinion. It will increase clock by 5 MHz, test, increase by 5 MHz, test, et cetera until it finds the ideal clock. Then do the same with the memory.

Simple; painless overclocking.
i have tried:
ATI Overdrive Under CCC - it increases the clocks and comes up with new OC under GPUZ....but it desn't increase ANY of my FPS in games...

The AMD tool does nothing...
Riva does nothing...
ATI Tool doesn't even launch...

i take it thats not supposed to happen...lol
CCS sitting at 225.14 FPS with no OC on graphics card...
sometimes OC'n it takes down to 223 FPS?!?!?

this is a frsh install of XP pro on SP3 using 8.5 drivers...
done 3 fresh installs of XP just incase...
nada...
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ignore last thread!...lol

maddness hour for me!

well thank you all...
i have manged to increase my 3dmark 06:
11,410 / 4853 / 6463 / 2189

so..the memory timings and stuff must have helped!
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You must ATI Tool beta in order to have support for the 3xxx series. Talk to Thlnk3r, he had some luck with his PCI-E 3850. I just used Auto-Tune on my AGP 3850.

Yes, you can make FPS go down. That is what happened to me when I did the OC on my own.

And yes Boonie, EVEREST also shows my RAM as PC-3200. It is PC-4000 though, trust me. (EVEREST and CPU-Z both read from the SPD.)
     
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ATI Tool doesn't even launch...
Valllldondo, make sure your using ATITool version 0.27. It can be downloaded by going here: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/V.../ATITool.shtml

I personally did not like 0.27 because it locked up my machine quite often. Version 0.26 was a lot more stable.

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You must ATI Tool beta in order to have support for the 3xxx series. Talk to Thlnk3r, he had some luck with his PCI-E 3850. I just used Auto-Tune on my AGP 3850.

Yes, you can make FPS go down. That is what happened to me when I did the OC on my own.

And yes Boonie, EVEREST also shows my RAM as PC-3200. It is PC-4000 though, trust me. (EVEREST and CPU-Z both read from the SPD.)
rep thanks Blitz
    
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guys I'm having some troubles, but don't feel like making a new thread for it

When I try to change clocks with ATItool, my screens both go crazy with artifacts on everything, mostly magenta and cyan type things, like weird static or a bad signal on old TV or something. when I try to open FurMark I get a lockup for ~20 seconds and then I get a quick BSOD and an instant restart.
Having EVGA precision open makes everything lag, even if I set it to "belownormal" priority.
Is my video card dying or something? It is EVGA so I can RMA it, but I would have to remove my cooler and ramsinks :\\

Any ideas?
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Does anyone know of a site that shows what chips different memory manufacturers use in their memory ? i.e ocz , g-shil ,mushkin , corsair etc? the reason im asking is I got a set of Mushkin preformance ram ddr500 today and CPUZ and EVEREST both show them as pc3200 ddr400 , trying to see if someone pulled the heatspreader trick on me thanks
Some clarification is in order.

For DDR, JEDEC specifies a peak spec of DDR400. This takes into account only STOCK reference clocks (200MHz on the HTT Clock/FSB), where the RAM frequency runs 1:1 with the reference clock. By definition, anything over the stock reference clock is an overclock, and JEDEC standards do not extend to overclocked settings.

Here is a breakdown of JEDEC's DDR SDRAM Standard Frequencies:
  • DDR200 = 100MHz x 2 = PC1600
  • DDR266 = 133MHz x 2 = PC2100
  • DDR333 = 166MHz x 2 = PC2700
  • DDR400 = 200MHz x 2 = PC3200

Click this link for a more complete description of JEDEC technical standards for DDR.

An interesting note from the following link: All RAM speeds in-between or above these listed specifications are not standardized by JEDEC — most often they are simply manufacturer optimizations using higher-tolerance or overvolted chips.

RAM manufacturers that produce RAM with DDR ratings higher than any of the JEDEC standards are only required to program their SPD chips up to the JEDEC peak of DDR400. However, because of the price premium consumers pay for optimized RAM, most (if not all) RAM vendors who sell "overclocked RAM" such as DDR500 modules guarantee that their product can run up to that speed.

Note, too, that the RAM is not overclocked until the reference clock itself is overclocked, especially if the RAM runs 1:1 with the reference clock.

The fun begins, though, when the CPU frequency (which, of course, is the product of the CPU multiplier x the HTT Clock/"FSB") is much higher than what the RAM max clock potential is. You run a divider in these cases. What happens then is that the RAM clock is slowed down so that it can run in step with the CPU clock. And what might often happen is that you have to really underclock your RAM just to maintain your CPU speed up.

Here's a real world example: Let's say your CPU can run stable at 2.75GHz. You have DDR500-capable RAM. Let's say your RAM can only do 250MHz (exactly DDR500) maximum. Let's further say that you have a 10x CPU multiplier. Obviously, then, the HTT Clock needed at the default CPU multiplier setting (10x) is 25MHz greater than what the RAM max clock can do (250MHz).

You then useGogar's Athlon64 OC Optimizer (one of my favorite OCing tools) to find the best possible settings. (Incidentally, this is also why I insist on finding your various sub-systems' maximum potential speeds; you take the guessing game out of knowing what your parts can really do.)

Thorough stability testing will then be the final step, when you find out if your mix of settings will work.

Hope this long post helps, people.
    
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guys I'm having some troubles, but don't feel like making a new thread for it

When I try to change clocks with ATItool, my screens both go crazy with artifacts on everything, mostly magenta and cyan type things, like weird static or a bad signal on old TV or something. when I try to open FurMark I get a lockup for ~20 seconds and then I get a quick BSOD and an instant restart.
Having EVGA precision open makes everything lag, even if I set it to "belownormal" priority.
Is my video card dying or something? It is EVGA so I can RMA it, but I would have to remove my cooler and ramsinks :

Any ideas?
Nate, I believe the 8800GT SC (Superclocked) has already been "pre" overclocked at the factory as oppose to the stock 600/900 clocks. Perhaps that is the limit of your G92. I do know some were able to get the SC flashed to a KO model but that is strictly done at your own risk. What are the idle and load temps at stock SC clocks?

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I'm with thlnk3r here. It's very likely that the card is already very close to its limits. I doubt, though, that any permanent damage has been done.

What happens if/when you reset the card to its stock clocks?
    
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