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Anyone want to test a hypothesis? Set up your rig to run OCCT v2.0 normal priority, 24-hour custom test time. If it makes it, it may not be a Skt939 issue.

If EVERYONE's rig cannot do it, I would agree to your proposition then.
     
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Well, stability testing is unfortunately not a hard-and-fast science. It is unfortunately subjective, in that there are certainly variances in just how hard stability testing programs actually work your equipment.

I won't agree with your position that OCCT is "not the correct form of stressing 939 (sic) equipment;" I simply have seen no evidence to support that claim. I will say, however, that it is not the most stringent stability test to use. S&M, in my opinion, is hands-down the most torturous stress testing validation program that I know about. If your overclocked rig can pass this program at its maximum level, I would pronounce your machine to be as close to absolute stability as possible.

OCCT is very good in evaluating "basic" stability, even at its default setting. It stresses both your CPU and your RAM coupled together. If neither of these subsystems is set up properly, then the test will fail. Similarly, if there is a hardware fault implicating either the CPU or the RAM, then the test will fail.

Your case, though, is strange, in that, despite changing out both RAM and CPU on the same motherboard, the system still fails stress-testing. It may be that the motherboard may be at fault.

At any rate, hopefully the resolution is a good one for you.
    
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Well, stability testing is unfortunately not a hard-and-fast science. It is unfortunately subjective, in that there are certainly variances in just how hard stability testing programs actually work your equipment.

I won't agree with your position that OCCT is "not the correct form of stressing 939 (sic) equipment;" I simply have seen no evidence to support that claim. I will say, however, that it is not the most stringent stability test to use. S&M, in my opinion, is hands-down the most torturous stress testing validation program that I know about. If your overclocked rig can pass this program at its maximum level, I would pronounce your machine to be as close to absolute stability as possible.

OCCT is very good in evaluating "basic" stability, even at its default setting. It stresses both your CPU and your RAM coupled together. If neither of these subsystems is set up properly, then the test will fail. Similarly, if there is a hardware fault implicating either the CPU or the RAM, then the test will fail.

Your case, though, is strange, in that, despite changing out both RAM and CPU on the same motherboard, the system still fails stress-testing. It may be that the motherboard may be at fault.

At any rate, hopefully the resolution is a good one for you.
Please see my previous post :

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Here...let's test my theory!

Somebody else in the club (looks at joe) should run OCCT 2.0 (or whatever the newest one is)....and ATTEMPT to run it for 24 hours. Let's see what happens?
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You'll notice the timestamps Pio... all three of us simul-posted. (I clicked submit, and the other two popped up on refresh.)

From talking to Pioneer on XFire, I am hearing all his nForce4 rigs are doing this. Anyone have nForce4 with a dual XP/Vista boot? I am wondering if this is an nForce4/Vista issue. (Nothing would surprise me from nVidia.)
     
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When I get my LANParty UT CFX3200-DR set up (sometime during this week), I will run OCCT Blend with the system at stock for 24hrs (though this is overkill, to be honest, because OCCT Blend is more stressful than Prime95/Orthos Blend at default). OCCT's program author says his program at default is equivalent to a 24 hour run of Orthos/Prime95, but I have no way of confirming whether or not this is true.

I'd run it now (since the rig is set up), but its onboard SATA controllers are too goofy to rely on. I'm waiting for a SATA controller card to arrive, after which I'll reinstall the OS to run it off of that.

As far as whether or not it's a chipset issue, to be honest. My nForce4 machines have never had problems like these...
    
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When I get my LANParty UT CFX3200-DR set up (sometime during this week), I will run OCCT Blend with the system at stock for 24hrs (though this is overkill, to be honest, because OCCT Blend is more stressful than Prime95/Orthos Blend at default). OCCT's program author says his program at default is equivalent to a 24 hour run of Orthos/Prime95, but I have no way of confirming whether or not this is true.

I'd run it now (since the rig is set up), but its onboard SATA controllers are too goofy to rely on. I'm waiting for a SATA controller card to arrive, after which I'll reinstall the OS to run it off of that.

As far as whether or not it's a chipset issue, to be honest. My nForce4 machines have never had problems like these...
Well I Look forward to hearing your results!
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To be fair, you have never ran Vista on any of them right? I know from experience that nVidia can be temperamental about Vista. Granted, mine was nForce 3, but it is still a valid quipe.

To test the overworking the processor theory: have you tried running Orthos for a few days non-stop? If the author of OCCT v2.0 is correct, you should have the same failure within a week if you are overstressing the processor.
     
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Correct. I've never run Vista (maybe if I win the contest which ends tonight? ) myself, but I've personally never run into stories of nF4-based horrors like your nF3-based troubles. (Except, perhaps, during the earliest days of the OS.)

In fact, Vista is said to have cured the ULi chipset troubles for some of LANParty UT CFX3200s out there... (which begs the question regarding this particular motherboard: Are its troubles hardware-based or software-based?)

I will share my findings as and when I've got things rolling, pio.
    
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Correct. I've never run Vista (maybe if I win the contest which ends tonight? ) myself, but I've personally never run into stories of nF4-based horrors like your nF3-based troubles. (Except, perhaps, during the earliest days of the OS.)

In fact, Vista is said to have cured the ULi chipset troubles for some of LANParty UT CFX3200s out there... (which begs the question regarding this particular motherboard: Are its troubles hardware-based or software-based?)

I will share my findings as and when I've got things rolling, pio.
Alright, well I look forward to hearing your results.

Also...keep an eye open (in this thread)...for HOPEFULLY a stable screenshot of my rig with Orthos. We'll see what happens of course.
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I would believe that Vista fixed the ULi, likely the only thing nVidia did right on Vista.

Xyro was not able to install XP 64-bit on his AT8-32X using either nVidia's driver nor the integrated driver. I was able to install Vista 64-bit on my AT8-32X using either the nVidia driver (with spotty performance) or the Vista driver (rock-steady).

I am still waiting to hear from Abit about getting an RMA for the record.
     
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