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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
I trust CPUz to tell me what is set, not the BIOS. Sometimes the BIOS shows the default clock speeds and thats it....othertimes it shows the overclocked and set settings. It all depends on your BIOS,
I would just like to point out that it depends solely on the BIOS. I've had some BIOS's that were spot on with the voltages (in regards to the PSU rails). You can't always go by what the software is listing but in Pez's case the BIOS is apparently not accurate at all.

Like Pio said, it all depends on the BIOS but you can't always go by the software. Heck the best way to measure Vcore would be a multimeter

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Ok, pioneer. I downloaded your tool you provided and cpuz says that DRAM Freq is 194.2Mhz. When I enter 233 to the top box then 10 into the multi box and 166Mhz as the divider, it says DRAM Freq is 194.166667 and cpu freq is 2330Mhz. So I'm assuming that means I have a 166 divider currently from auto settings from bios. So what does this mean I need to do?

Ok, set it to 133mhz and x4 htt and 241 and 250 fsb and once it came up with a kernel error (250) and the second bsod'ed (241) those timings you have me (3-3-3-8-2T). Mine is in this order:

Tcl: 2.5
Tras: 8T
Trcd: 4T
Trp: 2T
Trrd: 2T

Could you do a bit of translating? What needs to be changed to what?
Edited by pez - 9/19/08 at 1:53pm
 
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RAM is listed as tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tCR-tRC-tRFC usually. Thus, 3-3-3-8-2T would be, in your case:

tCL: 3T
tRAS: 8T
tRCD: 3T
tRP: 3T
tRRD: unk

Where "unk" is I do not know what that setting should be. I always leave that one as whatever the BIOS sets it to. If you have changed it, clearing the CMOS or "loading optimized defaults" will restore it.
     
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Ok, thank you for that. I didn't touch any of it in fear that I would screw it up. Just finished reformatting, but installing the updates. I'm still waiting for pioneer to post his specs from his PSU, because I think one version had one 12v rail and the other (mine) with 2 12v rails.
 
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Yes, that PSU came in two flavors. One is a single 34A Rail, and the other is a 16/18 dual-rail configuration. Pioneer's is the dual-rail model.
     
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Yes, that PSU came in two flavors. One is a single 34A Rail, and the other is a 16/18 dual-rail configuration. Pioneer's is the dual-rail model.
Ahh, that's good to know, that's the one I have. One question, it's only about 23A on the 12v rails total...how did he run an hd 4850 stable? I'm most likely only going to go 8800gt, but I thought even the 8800gt's needed 24A.
 
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People claim that 3850s need 30+ A. I refuse to believe that. My card runs happily on 19 A. According to ATI, a 4850, like a 3850, requires only one 75 W (6.25 A) power connector.

You wouldn't happen to know the underwriter's laboratory number would you? It will be on your power supply's voltage chart under or near a backwards RU. I tried looking it up on Newegg but the picture is too small.
     
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Ahh, that's good to know, that's the one I have. One question, it's only about 23A on the 12v rails total...how did he run an hd 4850 stable? I'm most likely only going to go 8800gt, but I thought even the 8800gt's needed 24A.
It will handle it JUST fine. My 8800GTS 512 requires more power than a 4850 does...and I've been running it just happily for 6+ months now. Don't even sweat it. Apevia makes "budget" parts....and they're really not all that great. BUT...it will last until you can afford to upgrade it to something more decent.
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It will handle it JUST fine. My 8800GTS 512 requires more power than a 4850 does...and I've been running it just happily for 6+ months now. Don't even sweat it. Apevia makes "budget" parts....and they're really not all that great. BUT...it will last until you can afford to upgrade it to something more decent.
Yeah, I was looking at a corsair 650 or 750, probably just better for me to get a new PSU, eh?
 
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I am a firm believer of "why spend money to upgrade if there is no need to."

If you put in a 4850 and the rig isn't stable under load, then maybe consider a bigger PSU. But if it runs without complaint, why waste the money? Save it until later and get a bigger one for when you go mutli-GPU.
     
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