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Originally Posted by GuardianOdin View Post
I have always read that changing the PCI-E slot voltage and PCI-E frequency was a bad thing to do. I tried on mine and had some goofy things happen. I changed it to default and all the problems stopped.
Guardian, I have heard the same as well. Matter of fact changing it doesn't do anything but supposedly it helps with "stabilizing" an overclock.

Mirunit, welcome to the club

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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
Doing some research online seems to indicate that S&M is incompatible with Vista 64-bit, and only marginally functional under Vista 32-bit. My options then are either install XP 32-bit to test stability, find another stability tester, or pester the creator to release S&M 1.9.2 that IS compatible with Vista 64-bit.
Blitz, I can almost guarantee you that your overclocks would be a heck of a lot more stable in XP then in Vista. Vista is so picky when it comes to overclocking. Blitz stop being a beta tester

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I noticed. Desktop Composition likes to crash.

The question is, was it only chance that it happened to BSOD, or was it because I changed the PCI-E wattage and frequency? I guess this proves what Joe always says:

The only stable computer is one that is off.
     
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I noticed. Desktop Composition likes to crash.

The question is, was it only chance that it happened to BSOD, or was it because I changed the PCI-E wattage and frequency? I guess this proves what Joe always says:

The only stable computer is one that is off.
Blitz6804, is there anything listed in the Event Viewer around the time it BSOD?

If anything changing the PCI-E wattage may help stability of your video card OC but you mainly need to change the amount of voltage that the GPU needs.

Just the other day my machine locked up while I was playing MP3's and browsing OCN. Supposedly my machine is Orthos/OCCT stable. Sometimes lockups/crashes just happen. It's one of those things that cannot be explained. I've had two lockups in the past 2 years with this OC

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I have done that more times than I care to count. I am updating the roster for you now.

And by the way... S&M stable apparently doesn't mean as such. My rig passed S&M last night with flying colors. Today, I tried to install a newer southbrdige driver, and I got an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSOD. It is only the CPU that can give me that right? Not the RAM or something? I am hesitant to give it another 25 mV.

Could it be the northbridge maybe? I am still running that stock voltage.
I concur with G.O.; I'd wager it's a new driver doing that.

As far as I'm concerned, though, it's very goofy to blame a stress test program for any machine's instability. Why? Machines are variable factors, in that they are ever changing (whether in terms of software or hardware, or simply through wear and tear). The stress test itself doesn't change its parameters, though. It's a set, consistent and constant standard.

Ornery Joe might say it's stupid to blame a stress test for stress test failures. But he's on furlough.

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Blitz, I can almost guarantee you that your overclocks would be a heck of a lot more stable in XP then in Vista. Vista is so picky when it comes to overclocking. Blitz stop being a beta tester

Good luck


Although, thlnk3r, I'll very soon be doing some Vista tests myself. No actual time-table for this yet, but it's going to happen.

Finally, welcome to the Club, mirunit! You are now on our formal roster.

Okay. Back to football and server-building!
    
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Well, sure, it would make sense to blame a newly installed driver. Here is the rub: the PC BSODed when I went to install it. I just double clicked the self-extracting executable, and it crashed mid-extraction. No installation had yet taken place.

And no, nothing interesting in my event log prior to crash.
     
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well. last nite i was just screwin around with my fx-60. mounted tuniq tower on. i couldnt get anything except 200 x 13 stable >.> lol.
 
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I know this will deserve a facepalm, but what did you try? What motherboard are you on? Just touched the multiplier or the HTT as well? Did you remember to lower HT multiplier if the latter? What RAM are you running? What RAM divider are you running it on? How much voltage are you giving the CPU, the RAM, and Northbridge?
     
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Well, sure, it would make sense to blame a newly installed driver. Here is the rub: the PC BSODed when I went to install it. I just double clicked the self-extracting executable, and it crashed mid-extraction. No installation had yet taken place.

And no, nothing interesting in my event log prior to crash.
Then something else is amiss.

I forget: Did the rig pass S&M at the same settings previously?
    
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No. The only difference between the S&M setting and the crashing installer is the PCI-E wattage and frequency. When it was S&M stable, it was 150 W and 105 MHz. When it crashed extracting the installer it was the stock 75 W and 100 MHz.

For all I know, it was dumb luck that it passed S&M. Sure it was on paper stable, but it would do funny things. That is, about 90% of my boots did not recognize the ReadyBoost drive until I removed it and reinserted it. Dropping the HTT by 5 MHz seems to fix that; I am 3-for-3 so far.

My question is, what would stabilize it? More VCore? Northbridge voltage? Loosening the RAM?
     
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Don't know, buddy. At which point of the test is it failing?
    
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