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well atleast you know now that it will boot in at those speeds. Simply a matter of tweaking....which you hate but it's so much fun!!!
Lol, no its not fun. I'm attempting stock timings and all that...just like my last run. However with that thingy disabled you just told me to. Will update if it fails. If it fails, I'll go back to my previous settings of 200MHz until told what to do next, lol.

EDIT: JUST FAILED 2.5 MINUTES IN!
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Lol, no its not fun. I'm attempting stock timings and all that...just like my last run. However with that thingy disabled you just told me to. Will update if it fails. If it fails, I'll go back to my previous settings of 200MHz until told what to do next, lol.

EDIT: JUST FAILED 2.5 MINUTES IN!

hmmm....I'll need to know all of the current timings to know what may be holding you back. Type that out for me and I'll take a look when I get home from work tonight. In the mean time set it back to stable. Same Bat time,same Bat channel
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hmmm....I'll need to know all of the current timings to know what may be holding you back. Type that out for me and I'll take a look when I get home from work tonight. In the mean time set it back to stable. Same Bat time,same Bat channel
Alright, here's what I've got STABLE:

133 divider (auto set only...if i manually set=fail)
2,3,2,6,1T
2.90v
makes 200MHz with the above timings

What I've tried:

250FSB
1:1 ratio
3,3,2,8,2T (stock timings)
2.90 - 3.3v...nothing worked
Made DDR500 (250MHz).
failed

312FSB
166 divider (manually set, auto goes to 133)
3,3,2,8,2T (stock timings, manually set)
2.90v...any more proved to be too much heat
Made 255MHz DDR510, failed

Tried the same as above with 3,5,5,10,2T
nothing else changed
failed.

Those are the only settings I've ever tweaked with. Anything above 2.90v proved to be too much heat. I MAY have damaged the chips with the 3.3v...however they have NEVER worked properly. Anything past 233MHz, they fail. Doesn't matter timings or anything that I know to set. It MAY be a sub timing issue, or the timings thingy in my jumperfree...its set to 450 auto set. I'm unsure what it is though, lol. But I've played with the normal timings and all the voltages, dividers, FSB speeds...nothing works past 233MHz from what I've tinkered with. It just ticks me off, lol. Hence why I've been running them completely auto set till this last OC attempt...where I finally set them to somewhat tighter timings, but everything else still auto.

For some odd reason, my auto settings always WORK just fine and prove stable. Its when I start to tweak the settings myself is when it starts to fail. Go figure!
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Pioneer, Guadian, Blitz... my fellow RAM wranglers:

I think I have a made a significant breakthrough (with much help, suggestions and advice) in the my personal ram dilemma. The following 4 settings have had a great deal of influence on the ability to POST, Boot into vista and gain stability:

Tref: there is a great chart you can find @ xtreme and/or DIY forums mapping out the Tref rates accross several intervals (100,133,166, 200mhz and 1.95, 3.9, 7.8 and 15.6us) created by Dracula. The chart was made for NF4 LP boards, but is universal in its information. Remember, this parameter sets the rate at which a cell is "re-charged" so its data does not decay... and can be either too loose or tight, preventing stability and/or boot

DRAM drive strength: This controls the strength of the memory bus' signal strength. The settings are either normal (even values) or weak (odd values) with the higher numbers either indicating a weak value close to normal, or a normal value at the highest level of strength

DRAM data drive strength: (lvl 1-4): This is used to boost the signal strength of the memoru data line. From my reading, the higher density your ICs, (i.e. dual sided dimm) the greater the signal strength needed at higher clocks. The levels are used to reduce strength, 1 being the weakest and 4 being the strongest. (I found lvl 3 best for me)

Max Async Latency: For me this has proved the holy grail of settings to stabilize 4gb dimm with the a64 IMC There is very limited information I have found regarding this setting, but from what I have garnered, this setting controls the asynchronous latency from the data line being pumped from the processors IMC to the furthest (physical location) DIMM on your board. In plain english, it controls the data pump traffic (like a crossing guard) to allow data to reach the furthest DIMM before issuing another signal. (this could be completely wrong, so I take no responsiblity....nor am I an expert of any kind in anything other than nose picking). By relaxing my MAL to 11ns I am currently priming with the settings you can observe below:



Unbelievable, I know. Before I couldn't even boot into DDR320.... now I am priming at my previous most stable overclock @ DDR486. Should this pass all tests, I might even up the vCore and try for a DDR500 24/7 stable on air 3.0ghz OC with 4GB RAM!!!!!!

I also may re-experiment with just 2gigs to see what kind of craziness I can get...shattering previous overclocks.

NOTE: upping your MAL, will get you stable at higher clocks....but at the cost of latency and max bandwidth

ALSO: I don't care what anyone tells you ... there is a huge performance difference between 4gb and 2gb in vista. While priming, I could barely surf the web with 2gb. Now, I have multiple browsers open, foobar running, priming and don't even notice a hitch in my system....just saying
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hey what's up s939'ers!
i would like to join the socket939 club. although i run a low end athlon 64 +3200 @ stock 2.0ghz

but i got a pretty awesome motherboard that was "supposedly" to be great on overclocking!
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hey what's up s939'ers!
i would like to join the socket939 club. although i run a low end athlon 64 +3200 @ stock 2.0ghz

but i got a pretty awesome motherboard that was "supposedly" to be great on overclocking!
Welcome to our little club! Just provide a CPUz validation link or a screenshot, and txtmstrjoe will add you to the roster once he's online . And yes, you have a GREAT motherboard for 939!
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here is my 939 socket::::::::::::;


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hey what's up s939'ers!
i would like to join the socket939 club. although i run a low end athlon 64 +3200 @ stock 2.0ghz

but i got a pretty awesome motherboard that was "supposedly" to be great on overclocking!
yah tahts a good board! only think to beat me and pioneerisloud's a8n32-sli haha. maybe..... good luck at oc'ing if you really decide to

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Welcome to our little club! Just provide a CPUz validation link or a screenshot, and txtmstrjoe will add you to the roster once he's online . And yes, you have a GREAT motherboard for 939!
what he said.. LOL

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here is my 939 socket::::::::::::;
oOo good start! keep goin
 
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Poser...resize partna! That pic is huge
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hey what's up s939'ers!
i would like to join the socket939 club. although i run a low end athlon 64 +3200 @ stock 2.0ghz

but i got a pretty awesome motherboard that was "supposedly" to be great on overclocking!
It definitely is. It's the big brother (mother?) of the board I've got, and hell yes they're awesome. I didn't want/need SLI though, so I went with the Ultra-D version.. Though if I ever want SLI, there's a simple mod you can do to the Ultra-D's chipset (Bridge two small solder points. Piece of cake.).

Anyway, Poser, I have a feeling that's going to be a very valuable piece of info for myself. I'm a FSB OC nub so far, but going at lengths to study up and learn the art in detail. Much thanks for the post.
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