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Well, my buddy still hasn't sent me the 4200+ I was promised, but he told me he was making a point of doing it on Wednesday.

In the meantime (by meantime, I mean the past hour) I tried to get my clocks as high as I could. I was also poking around in my BIOS and under the title "PCI Settings" in my "Advanced Chipset" menu, I found the way to lower my HT multi. Finally.

Running my X2 3800+ at 2.4 right now, which is very high, considering on my A8R-MVP this chip refused to go higher than 2.25. I am running it at the insane voltage of 1.50v, and it is Orthos stable for 3 hours so far.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=424486

Got it to post at 2.55, however, Windows refused to load until I brought it down to 2.49, and it crashed after about 10 seconds of Orthos until 2.4

What can all the others with the Mushkin XP4000 get in terms of clocks with what timings? I'm running mine at 533, 3,4,4,8. Stock voltage, seeing as this mobo doesn't have ram voltage adjustment.
Edited by Murderous Moppet - 9/29/08 at 3:28am
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You have DDR400 RAM, so try a divi of 133mhz for the DRAM. Your ram will be a bit slower, but it might provide you w/ stability. It's what I did to get stable.
 
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Actually Pez, he has DDR 500 RAM. PC 4000 = DDR 500, much like your PC 2700 = DDR 333. The RAM he is running, the RAM I was running, and the RAM you will soon be running are all one and the same.

In my case, my Mushkins ran at two speeds/settings. DDR 500 3-3-2-8-1T-11-17 @ 2.8 V and DDR 400 2-3-2-6-2T-8-12 @ 2.8 V. I never tried running them at anything else.




Pez does have an interesting point Murderous Moppet. Why are you running your RAM faster than your HTT? Perhaps drop the RAM to 1:1 (likely 200 MHz in your BIOS). This will give you RAM that is only DDR 480. If you can then get the HTT up to 250, you'll be running 2500 with your RAM 1:1, a tasty proposition indeed. If you want to compare the two, get your hands on Everest Ultimate. (30-day trialware.) Compare your memory bandwidth at 533 Async with 500 Sync. Ninety-nine times out of one hundred the latter will have better bandwidth and lower latency.
     
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Actually Pez, he has DDR 500 RAM. PC 4000 = DDR 500, much like your PC 2700 = DDR 333. The RAM he is running, the RAM I was running, and the RAM you will soon be running are all one and the same.

In my case, my Mushkins ran at two speeds/settings. DDR 500 3-3-2-8-1T-11-17 @ 2.8 V and DDR 400 2-3-2-6-2T-8-12 @ 2.8 V. I never tried running them at anything else.




Pez does have an interesting point Murderous Moppet. Why are you running your RAM faster than your HTT? Perhaps drop the RAM to 1:1 (likely 200 MHz in your BIOS). This will give you RAM that is only DDR 480. If you can then get the HTT up to 250, you'll be running 2500 with your RAM 1:1, a tasty proposition indeed. If you want to compare the two, get your hands on Everest Ultimate. (30-day trialware.) Compare your memory bandwidth at 533 Async with 500 Sync. Ninety-nine times out of one hundred the latter will have better bandwidth and lower latency.
I saw that his RAM says PC4000, but on the cpuz validation his ram says pc3200. And the thing about the ram being at 1:1 w/ the ddr500 was what I noticed and made me especially interested in the ddr500. So the default ram timings for the mushkin's. Will they run fine?
 
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Yes. Mushkins have an SPD value for PC 3200. The RAM will boot, by default, at 400 MHz at 3-3-2-8 @ 2.5 V. The RAM is guaranteed to operate at PC 4000 at 3-3-2-8 @ 2.8 V. The SPD table is listed for PC 3200 for compatibility, as not all boards have a 200:250 memory divider.
     
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Oooo, ok, thanks for clearing that up . Now I can ignored those newegg reviews that stated that about the mushking .
 
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Hi all, and thank you for the warm welcome
I figured I'd try out some OC today I haven't really done any overclocking before so, I'm a newbie, please bear with me.

I did read through most of the basic stuff, but I can't say I understood most of it though
Anyways, I poked around in my BIOS and ended up doing this:
* Locked the "AGP/PCI frequency" to 66.66/33.33
* Lowered "memclock to cpu ratio" to 5:3 (DDR333)
* Increased the "CPU FSB Frequency" from 200 to 210 (starting out small)
I think that's all I did, I might have forgotten something though, I'll let ya know if i remember anything else.

Now, take a look at CPU-Z if you please
Attachment 83949
I like what I managed to do to the RAM, It was running at 166MHz before, even though it was set to run at 200(It's an A8V(mobo) thing when using 4 sticks)
As you can see, the HT Link is at 1050, and I heard you are supposed to keep it as close to stock(1000) as possible, I would like some more information about that.
Oh, and should I alter the DDR voltage settings? I have it at [auto](2.5V) at the moment, I can choose between .6 .7 and .8

Thanks for any help with my first step into the overclocking world!
It's much appreciated!

Edited by HothBase - 9/29/08 at 11:09am
 
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Since you are limited by a Via chipset, you should not need RAM voltage just yet. Higher RAM voltages are required if you up the frequency or tighten the latencies. As long as your RAM is around DDR 400 at 3-4-4-8-2T, you should be able to run the JEDEC spec of 2.5 V.

Regards HT link: you usually want to keep it around 1000. An nForce 4 chipset can handle around 1100 max. An nForce 3 chipset can handle around 1000 max. A 3200 Crossfire Xpress can handle around 1300 max. Your chipset is the unknown factor. If you reach instability, dropping the HT link should be your first step.

I will write you a "do to" list later; I am in class right now.
     
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I will write you a "do to" list later; I am in class right now.
Thanks alot! I feel that I could use something like that at the moment.
I'm going to get some sleep now though, so I'll look into it first thing tomorrow.

Edit: How high fluctuations are acceptable for the core voltage?
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HothBase, just one word of caution: Please do ensure that the PCI Frequency stays locked at 33.33. I had a bad experience with a VIA K8T890 motherboard (ASUS A8V-E SE) which did not have a PCI Frequency lock on it. The OS got severely damaged once I had my HTT Clock up to above 220MHz.

I'm pretty sure that your motherboard/BIOS (you do have the Deluxe version of the board, which is a good thing) does support PCI Frequency locking, but it's something that's worth double-checking.

I guess I just shudder whenever I see VIA K8T8x0 as the chipset (purely due to my own unfortunate experience ).

Good luck!

(Good job by Blitz, as well, for his advice.)
    
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