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post #8031 of 28751
well I got two thinking I would be able to use one for parts. by the looks of it I might need the second for parts but both have damaged caps so it's another guess as to what board I should try first. I think I will try the baord that has no scrathces on the back side first.
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post #8032 of 28751
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w/damaged caps http://www.overclock.net/album.php?a...pictureid=2303 can these boards be repaired or is even worth it?
N2Gaming, if only the capacitors are damaged then yes it's WORTH fixing. Caps are cheap. Make sure you get the same caps that are your board. Brand is as just important. Make sure the uF, voltage and temperature is the same. Don't forget about footprint as well (size). I replaced a few caps on a micro atx p4 board with just a few tools. I picked up the caps from my buddies work but places like Radio Shack have them as well. Here is a interesting desoldering guide that might be of some use: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/164/4. The process is actually quite simple. It just takes patience and practice.

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post #8033 of 28751
If both of the old pins are still there, you can also just solder the pins of the new cap directly to the pins of the old one
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post #8034 of 28751
Thank you, think3r.

TestECull so if I understand you correctly I can gently pull the capacitor apart and then solder the new one to the leads left on the componant side, or are you saying to solder the new cap to the non componat side and leave the old cap there on the componant side???
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post #8035 of 28751
Yes, if you can gently pull the cap off of it's pins, you can solder the new one to those pins.


First, mark the polarity of the cap somehow, on the mobo(Maybe sharpie the end of an adjacent cap where the positive was, or a bit of tape next to the positive pin), then CAREFULLY pull the cap directly away from the mobo with your pliers. Cover the tips in rubber or plastic so you dun scratch up the board's traces, and you should be able to pull the pins out of the bad cap. There's nothing but friction holding them in there. Once the old one is off, clean the pins VERY well with alcohol, allow to dry, then solder the new cap on, making sure to observe the polarity of the old one and to not let the board get too hot. IF you are successful, your board should work fine, and the only odd looking detail is one cap will be sticking up a bit more than it's neighbors!


And like the other guys said, get a perfectly matching cap before you destroy the bad one removing it. IT won't survive removal well enough to use for ID.


Electrolytic capacitors only work one way, by the way. Polarity is important. The caps will be marked, and I'm sure the guy at Radio Shack will be able to tell you which pin is positive if you don't know how to read the markings.
Edited by TestECull - 10/13/08 at 2:50am
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Then again, in all fairness, if you cannot read the markings, perhaps you should reconsider this project. Good luck to you N2!
     
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post #8037 of 28751
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Then again, in all fairness, if you cannot read the markings, perhaps you should reconsider this project. Good luck to you N2!


Could be like me and simply forgot. It's been two years since I've soldered electrolytic caps, so I've forgotten quite a bit, and I really must read up on it...I know the positive pin is usually longer, and I think there's a white stripe with - symbols in it to indicate the ground, but I'm probably off somewhat.
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post #8038 of 28751
The last capacitor I personally dealt with was a custom-built model for testing the change in the dielectric constant of Carbon Tetrabromide as it phase changed from liquid to plastic to solid. As it was custom built, and thus, not standardized, my knowledge thereof would be of no help to N2Gaming.

That, and it provided about 400 puffs (picofarads or pF) of capacitance. A bit less than a motherboard would want. Not to mention the sucker is as big as three optical drives.

Schematic (click to expand 10-fold):

Capacitor in a jar full of glass beads (click to expand 10-fold):




     
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Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG CH08LS10 (SATA BD-R / DVD±R / CD-RW) Prolimatech Megashadow Scythe S-Flex SFF21G x2 Scythe S-Flex SFF21F x2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TR-FDB-1600 x4 XCLIO Amazing Fan 250mm Scythe Kama Bay SCKB-1000BK x3 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 
OSOSOSOS
Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) Fedora 15 LXDE (via Virtualbox) Slackware Linux XFCE (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
LG 47LH40 Acer G276HL Gbd Acer G276HL Gbd Unicomp Classic 104 Black Buckling Spring PS2 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone OP1000-E Modded Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS Logitech G500 Massive generic black foam mat 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty C... Denon AVR-1910 Polk Audio Monitor 40 Polk Audio Monitor 30 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Audio CS1 Polk Audio PSW10 Jamo C400SUR Plantronics Gamecom 377 
AudioOtherOtherOther
LG HBM-235 Genovation ControlPad 683 Canon Imageclass MF4450 12" Dual White Cold Cathode Kit x3 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Microsoft Strategic Commander UPEK Eikon Digital Privacy Manager Logitech G27 Playseat Revolution (NASCAR) 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Playseat Revolution Gearshift Holder Sony DualShock 3 Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 D-Link DBT-120 
OtherOther
APC SMT1500 HP Photosmart 3210xi All-in-One 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 Merom Toshiba ISRAA 1.0 (Socket 479) ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 modded CCC 10.6 OCZ2MV6674GK 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 HD20500 Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD6400BEVT-22A0RT0) Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S ATA Stock heatpipe system 
CoolingOSOSOS
Thermaltake Massive23 CS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
17.0" Diagonal Widescreen WSXGA+ Internal only 19 V, 6.32 A Stock 17" Satellite shell (8.5 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Small generic black foam mat HP Thin USB Powered Speakers Fiio E5 Headphone Amplifier 
AudioOtherOther
Griffin iTrip P1141 Microsoft GPS 168 Toshiba Backpack PA1366U-1NCS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ Barton Hewlett-Packard 0024 ATI Mobility Radeon IGP-320M Crucial CT6464X265.16FG 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Toshiba MK4021GAS Toshiba SD-R2512 Stock heatpipes Windows XP Home SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
15.0" XGA TFT Internal only 18.5 V, 4.9 A Stock 15" Pavilion Shell (8 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech MX510 Gaming Optical Generic gel-based green Internal Altec Lansing only Targus PAU10KU 
OtherOther
D-Link DWL-G650M Generic black messenger-style bag 
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Intel Core i7-3770k ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 FTW (03G-P4-3784-KR) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 HDS5C3020ALA632 Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721075KLA330 Hitachi X Mobile 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
LG CH08LS10 (SATA BD-R / DVD±R / CD-RW) Prolimatech Megashadow Scythe S-Flex SFF21G x2 Scythe S-Flex SFF21F x2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TR-FDB-1600 x4 XCLIO Amazing Fan 250mm Scythe Kama Bay SCKB-1000BK x3 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 
OSOSOSOS
Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) Fedora 15 LXDE (via Virtualbox) Slackware Linux XFCE (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
LG 47LH40 Acer G276HL Gbd Acer G276HL Gbd Unicomp Classic 104 Black Buckling Spring PS2 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Silverstone OP1000-E Modded Thermaltake Armor VA8003BWS Logitech G500 Massive generic black foam mat 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty C... Denon AVR-1910 Polk Audio Monitor 40 Polk Audio Monitor 30 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Audio CS1 Polk Audio PSW10 Jamo C400SUR Plantronics Gamecom 377 
AudioOtherOtherOther
LG HBM-235 Genovation ControlPad 683 Canon Imageclass MF4450 12" Dual White Cold Cathode Kit x3 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Microsoft Strategic Commander UPEK Eikon Digital Privacy Manager Logitech G27 Playseat Revolution (NASCAR) 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Playseat Revolution Gearshift Holder Sony DualShock 3 Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 D-Link DBT-120 
OtherOther
APC SMT1500 HP Photosmart 3210xi All-in-One 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 Merom Toshiba ISRAA 1.0 (Socket 479) ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 modded CCC 10.6 OCZ2MV6674GK 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 HD20500 Western Digital Caviar Blue (WD6400BEVT-22A0RT0) Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S ATA Stock heatpipe system 
CoolingOSOSOS
Thermaltake Massive23 CS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Windows XP Home x64 SP3 (via Virtualbox) DOS 5.0 (via DOSbox) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
17.0" Diagonal Widescreen WSXGA+ Internal only 19 V, 6.32 A Stock 17" Satellite shell (8.5 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G500 Small generic black foam mat HP Thin USB Powered Speakers Fiio E5 Headphone Amplifier 
AudioOtherOther
Griffin iTrip P1141 Microsoft GPS 168 Toshiba Backpack PA1366U-1NCS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ Barton Hewlett-Packard 0024 ATI Mobility Radeon IGP-320M Crucial CT6464X265.16FG 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Toshiba MK4021GAS Toshiba SD-R2512 Stock heatpipes Windows XP Home SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
15.0" XGA TFT Internal only 18.5 V, 4.9 A Stock 15" Pavilion Shell (8 lbs) 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech MX510 Gaming Optical Generic gel-based green Internal Altec Lansing only Targus PAU10KU 
OtherOther
D-Link DWL-G650M Generic black messenger-style bag 
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