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Just to put my own two cents in, I personally prefer to get the best single card over any multi-GPU solution. Why? Well, one card will always use less power than multiple cards; one card will always produce less heat; one card at a given performance level will almost always be cheaper than multiple lesser cards to get to that same performance level; one card will almost always be less vulnerable to various niggling issues vis-a-vis compatibility, driver stability, and other complications that are almost inherent in multi-GPU setups.

I prefer the simplest, most direct, and most efficient solution available. Why needlessly complicate things, you know? It's something I try to apply in most facets of my own life, and it extends to my hardware habits as well.
N2 is right, you do have a good way to sum things up and give me confirmation that I'm making somewhat of a right choice . I'm pretty set on an ATI card. It's funny, I figured when I had $175 to waste, I would go straight for the best I could get, but instead I keep wanting an ATI card, no matter how much the charts tell me the 8800/9800GT is for the same price. Guess that's why I'll wait for the HD4830 . Not too much, but not really cheap either. Kinda a midway satisfaction.
 
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I edited my last posting for the following, I wish I had 2x8800gts but I have 2x8600gts any way here is my 3dmark06 score http://www.overclock.net/album.php?a...pictureid=2373 For some reason my cpu test one had 0 fps and cpu test 2 had 1-0 fps. Does this mean I have a problem with my system or is this normal for my system and cpu configuration with 3dmark06?
Edited by N2Gaming - 10/17/08 at 6:30pm
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Absolutely normal. You must be in excess of 3.0 GHz with a dual core to break 1 FPS reliably on the second test. You cannot get over 1 FPS reliably {on the first} with a dual core until about 3.3 GHz or so. At least, with AMD processors. 3DMark06 heavily favors Core2.
     
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thanks, I was not sure if I ruined my opty 180 that time I bent the pins and had perform surgery on it. Now that I think of it I should have tried to snap off a few pics of the bent pins. oh well.

Update on the caps I replaced on the expert. here are some pictures of the caps I replaced. http://www.overclock.net/album.php?a...pictureid=2377 & http://www.overclock.net/album.php?a...pictureid=2376 So far I was unable to get a stable overclock at 2.5 with fsb @250 so I dropped it to 240 and it was fine then I made some changes to voltage mem timings etc. and it became unstable. after that I called it a night or moning since it was well into 3am
Edited by N2Gaming - 10/17/08 at 6:55pm
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Comics with the Vader? Did I miss something? I am sorry to hear about the Manny dieing Pioneer, I am hoping upon hope that you are incorrect and that it is not dead. Why do you think it is dead? Does your P4 have HT? If so, swap that and the Manny and replace the Manny with a single then? Or were both your HTPCs to begin with?

Welcome to the club stn0092! I am uploading the new roster right now.
Well Blitz, the P4 with HT is my second HTPC build. And that processor does NOT cut it. Hence why I know a single core Athlon probably won't cut it either. I haven't actually TESTED this theory, but its a pretty good hunch since the P4 is clocked at 3.60GHz currently (and has 2GB of RAM, everything else is the same as what WAS in the X2 build).

It's not DEAD DEAD persay....it's just unstable. Won't even boot into Windows...even at sub stock speeds. RAM tests out fine, everything's fine with the single core CPU installed. That CPU just won't go stable (and I'm trying for 1.8GHz mind you). Hence why I know its the CPU.

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I believe even though you'de be 8x8 w/sli the spd of the two is the same as 1 x 16 however when you have two gpu's the spd should increse as well as the memory. I'm sure you'll find a ton of information on this topic if you google it.

Pioneer, do you use a tv capture card?
Yes I use a Leadtek capture card. WinFast Home Cinema or something along those lines. They work GREAT, but you NEED an actual dual core and AT LEAST 2GB of RAM to use them effeciently it seems. Its a bummer since the P4 can't pull it off....I know the single core Athlon won't.
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Yes I use a Leadtek capture card. WinFast Home Cinema or something along those lines. They work GREAT, but you NEED an actual dual core and AT LEAST 2GB of RAM to use them effeciently it seems. Its a bummer since the P4 can't pull it off....I know the single core Athlon won't.
thank you. I have a opty 180 that's duel core and I have an am2 x2 5400+BE that I would like to make a pc home theature with. the 5400+ I have overclocked at 3.2ghz stable. so would it be better off with 4 or 8 gig of ram or is 2 gig just fine.
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thank you. I have a opty 180 that's duel core and I have an am2 x2 5400+BE that I would like to make a pc home theature with. the 5400+ I have overclocked at 3.2ghz stable. so would it be better off with 4 or 8 gig of ram or is 2 gig just fine.
For TV viewing...here's a low down of what you need (even for High Def):
  • Dual core (preferrably AMD, but that's just me) @ 2.2-2.4GHz (any more is unnecessary and does NOTHING)
  • 2GB memory (that's MORE than enough RAM, even in Vista...but 4GB would be nice)
  • LOTS OF HARD DRIVE ROOM
  • Low end HD3xxx series GPU or LOW END HD4xxx GPU. The low end ones do HD material just fine. I have a HD3450 (paid $9.99 for it after rebates) in mine.

The extra clock speeds do NOTHING for TV viewing. The goal in building a great TV machine...run it slower but SILENT. And by silent, I mean undervolt it and if possible, run it passive (or near passive)!

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and of course a capture card, lol. I bought the Leadtek WinFast Cinema (roughly $69.99 on newegg)...and it works GREAT.
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For TV viewing...here's a low down of what you need (even for High Def):
  • Dual core (preferrably AMD, but that's just me) @ 2.2-2.4GHz (any more is unnecessary and does NOTHING)
  • 2GB memory (that's MORE than enough RAM, even in Vista...but 4GB would be nice)
  • LOTS OF HARD DRIVE ROOM
  • Low end HD3xxx series GPU or LOW END HD4xxx GPU. The low end ones do HD material just fine. I have a HD3450 (paid $9.99 for it after rebates) in mine.
The extra clock speeds do NOTHING for TV viewing. The goal in building a great TV machine...run it slower but SILENT. And by silent, I mean undervolt it and if possible, run it passive (or near passive)!

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and of course a capture card, lol. I bought the Leadtek WinFast Cinema (roughly $69.99 on newegg)...and it works GREAT.
Ok so if I understand you correctly you are running a ati video card and a leadtek capture card. Do you also use this for gaming and other pc related activities or just as a stand alone pc for tv
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Ok so if I understand you correctly you are running a ati video card and a leadtek capture card. Do you also use this for gaming and other pc related activities or just as a stand alone pc for tv
I only use this as a TV machine. It'll do LIGHT gaming just fine. But it won't play Crysis well (I tried)...it pulls off all LOW settings just fine.
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I only use this as a TV machine. It'll do LIGHT gaming just fine. But it won't play Crysis well (I tried)...it pulls off all LOW settings just fine.
I see. So it is possible to have tv pc that will game but it requires the cpu and video card to be able to handle the games you intend to play is this correct? The reason I'm asking so many questions about this toppic is becuase I'm thinking of turning my m2n32 sli delux rig into a home entertainment system to use as a dvr, gamer all in one type of machine. Unless it's not possible due to hardware/software conflicts or something of the sort.
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