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I see. So it is possible to have tv pc that will game but it requires the cpu and video card to be able to handle the games you intend to play is this correct? The reason I'm asking so many questions about this toppic is becuase I'm thinking of turning my m2n32 sli delux rig into a home entertainment system to use as a dvr, gamer all in one type of machine. Unless it's not possible due to hardware/software conflicts or something of the sort.
I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work. A lot of people do that . At that point it really depends on the resolution your monitor (TV) can handle. If you're on a standard definition TV (such as myself)...that's 480i/p, which means 640x480 resolution. That's EASY to game well on with just about any video card (8600GT can pull that off in Crysis with EASE). If you're on a high definition set (720p/i or 1080), then you'll obviously need a higher clocked CPU and a better GPU.
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N2 is right, you do have a good way to sum things up and give me confirmation that I'm making somewhat of a right choice . I'm pretty set on an ATI card. It's funny, I figured when I had $175 to waste, I would go straight for the best I could get, but instead I keep wanting an ATI card, no matter how much the charts tell me the 8800/9800GT is for the same price. Guess that's why I'll wait for the HD4830 . Not too much, but not really cheap either. Kinda a midway satisfaction.
pez, $175.00 can get you a pretty good card these days.

A quick look on NewEgg shows that, given pricing today (10 October 2008), cards in your budget range used to be just below what used to be top-tier cards. Given the fact that hardware is still quite a bit ahead of the software (games), I believe you have pretty good choices available in your price range. In fact, a few months ago, some of these cards were top-of-the-line. They represent excellent value.

For example, on the ATi side of the street, you can get an HD 4850 for just about your stated budget limit. If you want better value (you get a lesser card but win in the bang-for-the-buck stakes) in this budget range, consider getting an HD 3870 for circa $15.00 - $20.00 less.

(As an aside, I wish I had my CFX3200-DR ready for testing duties right now, if only to illustrate the difference between the HD 3870 and the HD 4850. I'd like to know just how much performance you leave untapped with the HD 4850 in comparison to its elder sister.)

nVidia isn't lacking in options, either. Some 9800 GTXs are right at the limit of your budget. This 9800 GT Superclocked is, in my opinion, one of the best available options here (from either ATi or nVidia).

Whatever you choose, though, pez, I hope you have great fun with it! I do know for sure that it's hard to lose out with the plethora of options you have available.

In fact, I feel bad because I know I overpaid with this HD 4870 I run. I should have been more patient and waited.

Oh well...
    
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pez, $175.00 can get you a pretty good card these days.

A quick look on NewEgg shows that, given pricing today (10 October 2008), cards in your budget range used to be just below what used to be top-tier cards. Given the fact that hardware is still quite a bit ahead of the software (games), I believe you have pretty good choices available in your price range. In fact, a few months ago, some of these cards were top-of-the-line. They represent excellent value.

For example, on the ATi side of the street, you can get an HD 4850 for just about your stated budget limit. If you want better value (you get a lesser card but win in the bang-for-the-buck stakes) in this budget range, consider getting an HD 3870 for circa $15.00 - $20.00 less.

(As an aside, I wish I had my CFX3200-DR ready for testing duties right now, if only to illustrate the difference between the HD 3870 and the HD 4850. I'd like to know just how much performance you leave untapped with the HD 4850 in comparison to its elder sister.)

nVidia isn't lacking in options, either. Some 9800 GTXs are right at the limit of your budget. This 9800 GT Superclocked is, in my opinion, one of the best available options here (from either ATi or nVidia).

Whatever you choose, though, pez, I hope you have great fun with it! I do know for sure that it's hard to lose out with the plethora of options you have available.

In fact, I feel bad because I know I overpaid with this HD 4870 I run. I should have been more patient and waited.

Oh well...
Yeah, I'm not worried about overpaying. If I pay $135 for a 9800GT and I'm really happy with it, I wouldn't be dissapointed if the prices dropped the next day by $20. But it really is hard to choose .
 
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I personally think you're going to see a price drop with ANY video card. No matter what price you can get one at. For example, my 8800GTS 512 was $275 when I bought it. That was about 6 months ago, and now they're $100 from eVGA's B-Stock! I am a little disappointed, but I am still MORE than happy with my purchase. I'd still be stuck on an 8600GTS if I was worried so much about it.

If you've got the money and want the performance NOW....then buy it NOW.
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Yeah, paypal said my transfer is supposed to clear by the 22nd. When I see those HD4830 benchies, and if they're good, I'm going to get one the day they hit newegg.
 
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I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work. A lot of people do that . At that point it really depends on the resolution your monitor (TV) can handle. If you're on a standard definition TV (such as myself)...that's 480i/p, which means 640x480 resolution. That's EASY to game well on with just about any video card (8600GT can pull that off in Crysis with EASE). If you're on a high definition set (720p/i or 1080), then you'll obviously need a higher clocked CPU and a better GPU.
Yep hi def for sure. the max res I can get on this tv http://www.overclock.net/album.php?a...pictureid=2374 is 1920 by 1080 and the 8600 I have will display hi def just fine but as far as gaming goes I have to lower the res and so on. I'll probably get the best nvidia card I can afford on ebay or something. maybe someone who switches from nvidia to ati to run cross fire will sell a 9800gtx and I'll be right there to snatch it up I'm curriouse if you know any thing about cctv systems as well. I only have amd systems and I read some reviews about cctv capture cards. Mostly all the reviews usually say make sure you have an intell based system for stability. do you know anything about this or am I barking up the wrong tree? Thanks for everything.
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Something to consider N2Gaming:

It is proven fact, not just an opinion from a fanboy, that Avivo makes TV and Movie programs more enjoyable. Ask anyone, ATI or nVidia fanboy, recent converts, or whoever, when using the PC as a TV source, nVidia's color always look a touch, flat. If you want the better gaming, go nVidia; you want a better TV, go ATI.

pez: Joe has made a slight oversight. While a 4850 will set you back as little as $134 after MIR on Newegg (HIS; reference cooler), 3870s are going for the insane price of $70 after MIR on the same (Powercolor; ZEROtherm). This is $10 cheaper than I paid for each of my 3850s some 3 months ago or so.

(For the record, the cheapest 4870 I could find was $200 after MIR. I wonder if it is worth the $66 over the 4850.)
     
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Something to consider N2Gaming:

It is proven fact, not just an opinion from a fanboy, that Avivo makes TV and Movie programs more enjoyable. Ask anyone, ATI or nVidia fanboy, recent converts, or whoever, when using the PC as a TV source, nVidia's color always look a touch, flat. If you want the better gaming, go nVidia; you want a better TV, go ATI.

pez: Joe has made a slight oversight. While a 4850 will set you back as little as $134 after MIR on Newegg (HIS; reference cooler), 3870s are going for the insane price of $70 after MIR on the same (Powercolor; ZEROtherm). This is $10 cheaper than I paid for each of my 3850s some 3 months ago or so.

(For the record, the cheapest 4870 I could find was $200 after MIR. I wonder if it is worth the $66 over the 4850.)
I've been wondering that myself as I'm looking to upgrade my GPU soon.
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Originally Posted by blitz6804 View Post
Something to consider N2Gaming:when using the PC as a TV source, nVidia's color always look a touch, flat. If you want the better gaming, go nVidia; you want a better TV, go ATI.
yeah I want my cake and eat it too. oh wait like that commercial I hear all the time. I want to go downtown and to the airport at the same time... I guess it's either gaming or dvr but not both if I'm looking for flawless performance. maybe A higher end ATI card will prvide both???
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That is highly probable. I have not tried a 48xx yet, but I have done extensive testing comparing my 3850 to others' 8800 GTs. It seems that 2x3850 gives about the same FPS. On the other hand, looking at screenshots between the two, mine looks a touch more vibrant. I have not compared DVDs between the two; I will likely try that next time I visit my dad. (He has 2x8800 GT; blows my graphics out of the water.)
     
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