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That's the other annoying thing. I can run ATI Tool for two hours straight. I boot Call of Duty 4, and the video driver crashes within 15 minutes. Ask Pioneerisloud. For some reason, Call of Duty 4 absolutely refuses to play nice with a video card overclock. (Other games work fine.) Since going crossfire however, I have lost the need to overclock the cards at all, so it is moot.
     
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The varieties of results in your tests are interesting to say the least. I don't know the best way to test for stability. That’s why I was just going to try a game. So far I've run P95 @ stock spd's for two hours and no problems. I have not been able to get any stable overclocks. Probably due to ocz memory. So I was just going to try to play a game at stock spd's to test the mobo and sound card for general crash free usage. I did not get any accessories w/expert board. DFI will deliver a sound module to my door for $15. So I wanted to test the sound and any related circuits on the board before I spend the $15 for the module. I don't have any other testing software other than the free P95 and that usually gives me an Idea if I have any serious hardware or bios related issues. Thank you for the info. I will try the sound module and post results.

One more question. Can I purchase any of the test’s you guys have mentioned in a store or do they all have to be downloaded. Lately I have been experiencing a lot of problems with downloads and viruses etc, so I prefer a clean & safe store purchased copy of the most reliable testing software for use w/xp x64 bit. Thanks

Blitz, after testing ATI do you reboot your system before playing cod4 or do you jump right in w/out reboot. I wondering if there is some kind of problem associated w/the tests not releasing the memory in either your mobo or grfx card after testing.

Edited by N2Gaming - 10/21/08 at 6:43am
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Rebooting the computer has no effect on stability. Increasing the GPU's speed by even one megahertz causes the driver to fail. All the tests must be downloaded. If it will help you any, you can PM me your email address and I will send you certified virus-free versions.
     
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That's the other annoying thing. I can run ATI Tool for two hours straight. I boot Call of Duty 4, and the video driver crashes within 15 minutes. Ask Pioneerisloud. For some reason, Call of Duty 4 absolutely refuses to play nice with a video card overclock. (Other games work fine.) Since going crossfire however, I have lost the need to overclock the cards at all, so it is moot.
CoD4 has a really bad issue with the sound. It could very well not be your video card. I had to set on low and work my way back to high to get from crashing.
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I just had an Idea and I'm wondering if any one has knowledge and experience w/what I’d like to do. Here is my idea. I want to run a clean install of OS and then look at all the files associated with OS and take a screen shot and save it. Then I want to load all associated hardware drivers and take another screen shot of files. And for every app I install I would like to take a screen shot of the loaded files.

Here is my problem. I don't know what files to look at or where I would find them. What is the reason behind all this curiosity you might ask? Well in theory I would like to be able to compare my system before it goes on line and after it goes on line. Then I would like to be able to delete files, undo addware or fix deleted &/or corrupt files. Thanks
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I've never had trouble with video card OC's in COD4. I've actually had an OC be stable for like 6 hours, but the next day have it fail in ATITool after 20 seconds.
 
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A few words on the notion of stability:

In my opinion, there really isn't a computer that is 100% absolutely stable (i.e., immune to crashing, hanging, freezing, etc.), except one that is turned off. If a computer is on, no matter how much work you put into testing for stability, you never get it so that the machine is perfectly stable. You can set things up so that you can get it as close as possible, but since it's a machine, it is inherently prone to failure at some point. With computers, the failure can be either be caused by faulty/faltering/broken/badly-set up hardware, or by software conflicts.

Does this mean, then, that we shouldn't work on getting our machines as close to perfectly stable while operational? Of course not. This assumes, of course, that you want a reliable and stable machine (some benchmark junkies may only care to be "benchmark-stable," which is further down the ladder of the kind of stability I demand from my machines). I personally want as much from both sides of the overclockers' coin, i.e., I want a fast AND stable machine. This is why I put so much time into running tests to ensure my rigs satisfy my personal requirements.

I employ a multi-stage battery of testing. At the lowest level, the machine must pass MemTest86+ (pre-OS boot); next up is SuperPi 32M (when testing HTT Frequency Clock max); next, Orthos Small FFTs @ Priority 8 (when testing HTT Frequency Clock max, and then testing CPU OC max); Orthos Blend @ Priority 8 (when testing RAM OC); 3DMark06 (to test basic 3D stability); rthdribl (to test 3D stability); then, the coup de grace, a long test on S&M @ max priority.

Testing periods for each test varies; you get a sense for a particular chip's potential, I believe, which guides you when you run your testing. Generally speaking, though, at the early stages of an overclock, your testing periods are shorter, less thorough; you're still building up towards the chip's maximum, after all, so you ought to be passing the shorter tests very easily. The closer you get to what you sense are the limits, though, I think you have to really get as thorough and stringent as possible with the machine. That's why I leave the most punishing stability test that I know about for when finalizing a setup.

If you'll notice, I don't have the fastest machine here; I'll bet, though, that I have one of the most stable. Besides, my 2.8GHz is more than fast enough for me. And it's a well-balanced setup, too, with the RAM as optimized as possible.
    
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I just had an Idea and I'm wondering if any one has knowledge and experience w/what I’d like to do. Here is my idea. I want to run a clean install of OS and then look at all the files associated with OS and take a screen shot and save it. Then I want to load all associated hardware drivers and take another screen shot of files. And for every app I install I would like to take a screen shot of the loaded files.

Here is my problem. I don't know what files to look at or where I would find them. What is the reason behind all this curiosity you might ask? Well in theory I would like to be able to compare my system before it goes on line and after it goes on line. Then I would like to be able to delete files, undo addware or fix deleted &/or corrupt files. Thanks
N2Gaming, this might be very difficult seeming a lot of applications install hidden files in different directories(.dll, .inf ect ect). Each application may be different. Especially in the registry. There could be several entries. What are you installing that may contained adware?

Good luck

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I've never had trouble with video card OC's in COD4. I've actually had an OC be stable for like 6 hours, but the next day have it fail in ATITool after 20 seconds.
Pez, same here my friend. I had a overclocked X700Pro pass several hours of ATITool but then crash almost instantly in a game. I think Joe had a nice 1:1 processor/memory overclock in the past. It passed several hours of stress testing but as soon as 3DMark06 booted up it was a no go. Nothing is 100% stable as stated in a previous post but eh...at least these applications provide some kind of satisfaction when it comes to stability
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Pez, same here my friend. I had a overclocked X700Pro pass several hours of ATITool but then crash almost instantly in a game. I think Joe had a nice 1:1 processor/memory overclock in the past. It passed several hours of stress testing but as soon as 3DMark06 booted up it was a no go. Nothing is 100% stable as stated in a previous post but eh...at least these applications provide some kind of satisfaction when it comes to stability
Only vice versa for me. ATITool refused to stay stable, but 10+ hours of gaming even after another attempt proved it wrong. The only thing that I really would benchmark would be my CPU and RAM, which are stable right now. I love my rig, and it's at a 1:1 ratio .
 
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I have not been able to get any stable overclocks nor have I been able to get the sound module to work. I wanted to test the sound and any related circuits on the board before I pay $15 to DFI for the sound module. I will try the sound module and post results.
The sound module is not working so far. After futher review of the downloaded mobo manual and mobo itself I noticed a 4 pin 5v/12v floppy power plug on the mobo that I had not pluged into the power supply. I'm wondering if this is why the sound is not working and If I possibly damaged to board by not plugging this up to power supply???
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