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To temper that; I can anecdotally say the members of our club seem to weigh-in in two clumps. One clump is around the 2.4-2.45 mark, the other is around the 2.75-2.8 mark. What stepping you possess may effect this, as does the chipset, RAM, and PWMs.
The ones on here that are around the 2.4 GHz mark are the exact same as mine. I think my steping is just 1. I have it at 2.35GHz and the ram at 133, I think I'll leave it at that for a bit before going any higher. I'll try getting a simple aftermarket cooler that looks different than just a single block around Christmas time before I can really push this thing. For ram, would I be able to put it higher and get coolers for my ram as well? I'm thinking, if I get a good cooler for both the ram and CPU, I'll try and get it to the 2.6 GHz mark with the ram around 200 each. Get some more ram and I think i'll be set for awhile

For these timings, how would I get to a nice safe number? Would I be able to overclock it higher if the ram was put at some nice timings? And what is this about disabling cores to overclock higher? I've noticed duo cores and quad cores don't seem to act any different in gaming performance. What about clock per clock on 1 core core verus 2 core? Anyone have any benchmarks? I would supposfully get a higher clock with only running 1 core eh? And this multiplyer, dropping that down to 9 and put a higher fsb work any better? Or is it higher the multiplyer the better?
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Domino, I'm a little biased when it comes to the source test. Source "supposedly" is more CPU dependent eh...I think it's half and half with the video card as well. To be honest I don't think you'll notice a huge difference from a 100Mhz overclock (in-game).

Keep pushing your overclock. The Manchester core typically tops out at 2.7Ghz - 2.8Ghz. These are averages so nothing is guaranteed.

Good luck
hmmmmm I've always noticed that when I overclock my GPU I actually lose performance in source games but in 3dmarks, my points can jump up by a nice 200? Its weird, are there any other tests that give a realistic view on performance increase. The 3d view on atitool seems to go up when the CPU and GPU are overclocked?????
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hmmmmm I've always noticed that when I overclock my GPU I actually lose performance in source games but in 3dmarks, my points can jump up by a nice 200? Its weird, are there any other tests that give a realistic view on performance increase. The 3d view on atitool seems to go up when the CPU and GPU are overclocked?????
How many times do you run your benchmark tests? One single run, in my opinion, is not really reliable because, computer systems being what they are, there are myriad factors all in play that will influence your results in some way. Specifically, there are so many things competing for RAM and CPU cycles within your system at any given moment.

Accordingly, I always try to run any benchmark at least three times; inevitably, there will be a high score, a low score, and a score that is almost always somewhere neatly in between the high and low. I then always take the middle score. Another approach would be to add all three scores and divide by three; this gives you the average of all three scores and, generally speaking, a fair representation of what your machine is capable of in that particular benchmark.
    
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How many times do you run your benchmark tests? One single run, in my opinion, is not really reliable because, computer systems being what they are, there are myriad factors all in play that will influence your results in some way. Specifically, there are so many things competing for RAM and CPU cycles within your system at any given moment.

Accordingly, I always try to run any benchmark at least three times; inevitably, there will be a high score, a low score, and a score that is almost always somewhere neatly in between the high and low. I then always take the middle score. Another approach would be to add all three scores and divide by three; this gives you the average of all three scores and, generally speaking, a fair representation of what your machine is capable of in that particular benchmark.
Ya, I only run 1 test, though in the past there has only been a 2FPS difference and sometimes even a 20-40fps difference (lower) when I overclocked the GPU, so I just think that its a little high of a jump to say the performance increased????
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I would not recommend RAM sinks if you do not already have them depending on price. It may be better to find a reasonably-priced kit of 2x1024 MB DDR 400. Regards single/dual core, I have done tests on that. If you give me about 30 minutes, I'll find the results. They were posted in this thread.

Available here

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I would not recommend RAM sinks if you do not already have them depending on price. It may be better to find a reasonably-priced kit of 2x1024 MB DDR 400. Regards single/dual core, I have done tests on that. If you give me about 30 minutes, I'll find the results. They were posted in this thread.

Available here

Regards RAM timings, your timings are already rather loose. Generally, tight timings (lower numbers) give better performance whereas loose timings (higher numbers) increase stability.
Thanks for the link there, it seems that more cores gives better performance, but what I'm wondering is if I disable one core and get the processor to 3.0 GHz, would that run faster than a dual core at 2.6 GHz on the same chip? Cause I've seen quad cores run at 4.0+ GHz on 1 core and only get something like 3.2-3.6 on 4 cores, so I'm wondering would I get a better performance increase with a high clocked 1 core disabled or a lower clock with 2 cores enabled?

Ok, well I'll ask for some nice 2x1 GB pc3200 sticks and get a nice cooler
Edited by Domino - 10/29/08 at 3:58pm
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I know Boonie2 is selling his RAM. Check his sig for a link.

On games that support dual-core, you would be better served with two, slower cores than one fast core. On games that do not support dual-core, you would be better served with a single fast core. The operating system tends to run smoother with dual cores. (Running the test in that post, the PC was a heck-ova-lot slower single core than using stock (2.2 GHz) dual core.)
     
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hmmmmm I've always noticed that when I overclock my GPU I actually lose performance in source games but in 3dmarks, my points can jump up by a nice 200? Its weird, are there any other tests that give a realistic view on performance increase. The 3d view on atitool seems to go up when the CPU and GPU are overclocked?????
Domino, how much testing have you done on your video card after overclocking it? Perhaps the performance issues are due to instability with the video card and it's current overclock.

Just a thought..

Good luck
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