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, yeah, I hear you. I've had this rig for about 4 years using stock cooling, but finally made the step up thanks to (litterally) a random guy in WoW through this other site that I'm active on.. He told me about how much Opterons rocked and told me I should consider upgrading, due to how some of them overclocked... So I researched it, got my Opty, and here I am.

It's a shame I don't have contact with the guy who originally helped me build this PC. He picked out the motherboard and said I wasn't allowed to pick anything else, haha. I would totally be thanking him right now for that.

As far as memtest went, I passed #5 about 21 times before I decided it was done. I may try it overnight though. As far as the ram goes, my sig only states what it's stock timings are. My board auto-tweaked it to 3-3-3-6 though (2-3-3-6 is possible, but I forget what option the 2 is representing). And for the 3.0GHz part... I'm expecting no less. . I'll find a way to get it there somehow. At the moment I'm in a unstable 2.85GHz overclock (juiced the special VID to +10%, as well as the chipset up one setting). Getting progress, but I'd love to find a way to pump out more FSB without problems booting. If I could manage that, I could change the HT mult to 2x and possibly get closer to my target.

Also, I'm not going to even dare with upping the chipset volt again. In a second i'll grab a smartguardian screen on my lanparty rig.
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TIM... you don't need to run your HT so low, as I think there is a point of diminishing returns and you end up bottlenecking...


...more importantly, I have rarely seen CL (Column Address Strobe latency) 4, DDR modules. Also, as Scorpion has pointed out previously in this thread... beware of the FSB hole. You may be stable up to 311 and then nothing... but then you again are stable from 319-348, (this you have a "FSB Hole" btw 312-318htt(

I know th!nk3r has suggested this, but I would also like to re-emphasize... try and max out each component individually... thus taking some of the guess work and limiting the number of unknowns.

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Will do. I'll probably only check the FSB max when I've got proper cooling for that chipset. Here's the smartguardian screen I was going to edit in:


I've got weird resolution settings (put there purposely though), so the last digit on the right for each fan speed is missing.

I'm starting to consider that passive heatsink a bit more now, but still unsure. If i do go with the passive, I'll find a fan with a power connector that can plug into the motherboard to go with it (or just a molex fan w/adapter.. hell, i could make my own.).

I'll take the suggestion a bit more seriously about finding my maxes though.. I'll just do the second two for now.
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i got my x2 3800+ to 2.5ghz i seen one go to 2.9. how is it done? when i go to 2.6 i get system crash. Please help total noob to hardcore oerclocking.
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First off Otakuphill, cool wallpaper, what anime is it from? Your avatar is obviously Azumanga Daioh.

That said, your HTT is a little low. I would change the multiplier from 2 to 3.

If you have DDR 400 RAM, you may be stressing it too much. Change the CPU/RAM divider such that the RAM is running closer to its DDR 400 spec. That being, try 2/1.66 (giving you DDR 414).

Also check that your latencies are not too aggressive. Unfortunately, I do not know what RAM you have. Can you either add it to your signature rig or take screen shots of your memory and SPD tabs for each DIMM?

I am a bit curious about the 1.5 GB. Is that 2x512 + 2x256, or 1x1024 + 1x512 or some other combination thereof? Ideally, you have all DIMMs identical, but two pairs is better than a miss-matched bunch.

You should be aware the average OC for a 3800+ Manchester is around 2.7 GHz. However, as has been said so well by txtmstrjoe:
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Will do. I'll probably only check the FSB max when I've got proper cooling for that chipset. Here's the smartguardian screen I was going to edit in:


I've got weird resolution settings (put there purposely though), so the last digit on the right for each fan speed is missing.

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I'll take the suggestion a bit more seriously about finding my maxes though.. I'll just do the second two for now.
Tim, I don't blame ya on the chipset temps. I even have a fan on mine and the idle temps are around 40C sometimes. Make sure though if you get the TR-HR-05 that you use a different mounting method. The push pins are very weak. I actually thought about using a screw and a nut to lock that thing down.

Good luck
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i got my x2 3800+ to 2.5ghz i seen one go to 2.9. how is it done? when i go to 2.6 i get system crash. Please help total noob to hardcore oerclocking.
Otakuphill, I've cross-linked your thread in the AMD CPU section to here as well.

The key to a successful OC, I think, is to know exactly what your individual components' limits are. The only way to determine these is to test them in isolation from each other, and then at the very last stage making educated compromises and consolidating your different subsystems' maximums to best effect.

Since I'm down with the flu, I'll simply just give you the link to the best guide I've found to A64 OCing I know about online. It will give you a solid foundation on the terms, philosophies, and techniques that can hopefully help you extract the most from your machine.

Lastly, a comment: While we all would like to get as high an OC as someone else who has a similar machine to ourselves, that's not a realistic expectation. OCs are unique unto themselves, as there simply are just too many variables that can influence your results. Therefore, the only way to know what our parts can do is to get stuck in and find out.

Good luck! Your friends here in the Club are all ready and able and willing to help you out.
    
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thlnk3r, I'll take your word for it on the push pins. As far as cooling my chipset in the meantime goes, i've got a 40mm fan i ripped out of something laying around here that I'll have aimed at the chipset. Not going to move a whole lot of air, but better than nothing.

Also, Otakuphill, that guide txtmstrjoe linked you IS a great guide. Gave me a better grasp on the subject, so do take time to look at it.
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update:

2.9ghz, 4gb RAM DDR486.... stable and still cooking...

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