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post #9051 of 28704
Does any one have any thoughts on the new phenom II prcecessors due out on Jan 9, 2009. I was thinking of running the BE Phenom II in my BNB project if my mobo will support it. From what I understand the Phenom II will be presented in two flavors the am3 ver. and am2+ ver. They will offer a BE in a am2+ ver. with a slower ram controller. I know this is s939 club but I just find this club to have for the most part a lot of knowledge. I found this and a discussion here about them and was wondering if any one knowsw of these?
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post #9052 of 28704
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Does any one have any thoughts on the new phenom II prcecessors due out on Jan 9, 2009. I was thinking of running the BE Phenom II in my BNB project if my mobo will support it. From what I understand the Phenom II will be presented in two flavors the am3 ver. and am2+ ver. They will offer a BE in a am2+ ver. with a slower ram controller. I know this is s939 club but I just find this club to have for the most part a lot of knowledge. I found this and a discussion here about them and was wondering if any one knowsw of these?
Well there isn't much out yet concerning the new chips, but I was to upgrade in the next 6-12 months I would upgrade to AM3 (if motherboards are available then) From what I can tell the AM2+ will be just as OC'able as the AM3 except the use DDR2 on the AM2+. So why not upgrade to the AM3 if it's available?

My hope is that there will be a nice DFI Mobo out there when the time comes for AM3.
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post #9053 of 28704
From RebelsHaven:

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Socket AM3 Processors & Chipsets

Specifications:
Type PGA-ZIF
Chip form factors PGA
Contacts 940
Bus Protocol
FSB 200 MHz System clock
2 GHz HyperTransport 3.0
Voltage range Split CPU/Memory controller voltages
Processors DDR3 capable Phenom series, Athlon X2, Sempron LE
Opteron (for 1P servers)


Socket AM3, which will be used in future AMD CPU releases, is a CPU socket designed by AMD for desktop processors, including the performance, mainstream and value segments. It has an expected release in late 2008, as a replacement for Socket AM2/AM2+.

AMD has confirmed that AM3 processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, AM2 processors will not work on AM3 motherboards because AM2 processors lack the DDR3 memory controller. Socket AM3 will be able to run either DDR2 or DDR3 SDRAM memory [1], but not both on the same motherboard; DDR3 runs at higher clock frequencies while drawing less power than DDR2 memory, however it is currently much more expensive. Therefore, users of Socket AM2 motherboards will be able to upgrade to AM3 processors, without replacing the motherboard or memory.

Socket AM3 is assumed to be introduced with AMD's next generation processors based on the 45 nm fabrication process that will be release in December 2008 (processor only), and the full AM3 platform (processor & motherboards) on January 11, 2009.


NVIDIA prepping MCP82 chipset for AMD's Deneb CPUs

There's been much speculation from the tech press and analysts over NVIDIA's plans in the chipset business going forward. Some have speculated that NVIDIA plans to exit the chipset market, in part because there's so little info out there on their upcoming nForce product plans. Motherboard makers are notorious for leaking info on upcoming products months in advance of launch, so the lack of any new chipset info from NVIDIA was interpreted as a sign that nothing was in the works.

Late yesterday however Expreview got their hands on a leaked NVIDIA roadmap outlining the company's plans for AMD's 45-nm Deneb Phenom CPUs. According to the roadmap, NVIDIA's MCP82 chipset will come with 2 SKUs: one supporting 3-Way SLI (MCP82-S1) and presumably a cheaper SKU limited to 2-Way SLI support (MCP82-S2). Like nForce 780a, MCP82 will ship with an integrated DX10 graphics core capable of handling 2D and video graphics duties to conserve power, while the chipset will also be the first NVIDIA product to support AMD's ACC technology for improved overclocking.

According to the article, engineering samples have already been sent to motherboard makers, with full production slated for January 2009.
    
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post #9054 of 28704
thanks GO & JE, It sounds like I might get lucky and be able to use one w/out upgrading mobo/ram but we'll have to waite and see if the Nforce 590 sli series chipset will support Phenom II's. I don't really see the need for it at the moment but things always change, games always get better requiring more power and the world keeps turning.
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post #9055 of 28704
Jemma, thanks for the detail info. I was a bit curious about nVidia's plans in regards to AM3 compatible motherboards. Nice to see the MCP82 will have a integrated graphics core. Not sure why the article said "2 GHz HyperTransport 3.0". HT 3.0 is suppose to be 2.6Ghz from what I understand. Perhaps it was just a typo

Thanks again!
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post #9056 of 28704
From hwbot:


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AMD Phenom II next best thing?

At the AMD event in Austin, Texas, the Finnish overclocking legend Macci, who works for AMD, has been able to overclock the second edition of the AMD Phenom processor to 5GHz and more … on LN2! Sources tell us that there’s litterally no coldbug, which was one of the biggest drawbacks in AMD overclocking since the Athlon64. Is AMD back in the high-end overclocking game? I certainly hope so!

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8389.html

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=208369

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=4207
    
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post #9057 of 28704
Ok guys, I've started OCing my CPU again. It's up to 2.55 but I haven't done a stability test, though all games I've played haven't had any problems and I've been running it at this for the past 24 hours straight. If I go up to 2.6, it starts to act strange. What would you guys suggest about that? Maybe loosening up my timings a bit? I was hoping I wouldn't have to take off my 1:1 cpu/ram ratio.

EDIT: To prove that 3DMark06 is so CPU biased. My 3DMark score went from 9091 to 9221 just from 50Mhz.
Edited by pez - 11/23/08 at 10:33am
 
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post #9058 of 28704
anybody know of any place where i can get a 939 dual core... ive got the 3700 but its fading in power with all these new applications running at the same time
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post #9059 of 28704
here is a opteron 180 for $169.00
and of course you could always shop for one here
Edited by N2Gaming - 11/23/08 at 10:41am
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I was talking with Pez in AIM. It seems that the RAM voltage is only at the SPD-set 2.5 V. Mushkin Redlines call for 2.6-2.9, I personally ran them with 2.8 V.
     
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