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Domino: What are you reading your RAM voltage with? Everest Ultimate? Motherboard monitor? The BIOS? If the BIOS, you likely already ARE overvolting your RAM. It may be 2.85 V + Overvolt = 3.15 V or something. As has been said, unless you have heat spreaders on your RAM, I would not go over 2.6 V. With heat spreaders, do not exceed 3.0 V without active cooling of some form.

The RAM timings are usually listed in the order of tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tCR-(tRC-tRFC). So, if you have a CAS Latency of 2, a RAS to CAS delay of 3, a RAS precharge of 4, a Cycle time of 7, a Command Rate of 2, a Bank Cycle Time of 11, and a Row Refresh Cycle time of 14, you would list your RAM as 2-3-4-7-2T-11-14. Many people do not list the tRC/tRFC which is why I put them in the parenthetical.
     
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*Doubles down.*

And I seem to recall we have had this discussion in the past, but does removing the two 128 MB DIMMs help any? Mismatched densities is not a great idea and could cause problems.
     
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CPU-Z says im running at 4:3:3:8 and yet the bios read its as 2.5:8:3:4????
I didn't even know that CAS 4 was an option
You might be looking under the "SPD" tab, which can be a little confusing.
Under "Memory" you should see something like this

Those timings are in the "correct order" (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tCR)
Give us a screenshot, won't ya?

It's bedtime for me now though, but I'm sure N2 and blitz can help you out. edit: and pez of course.
and whoever decides to help...
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h!

Okay, well, I've phoned EVGA and there isn't any bios updates for my old NF44 sli matx mobo. For some reason I can't get my ram over 2.85 volts, even when overvoltage is enabled. Any ideas?

This CPU should be able to hit 2.7GHz, but my ram voltages are holding me, anyone know any ideas or had this problem before? I've ordered a bunch of cooling stuff so I can learn off this system, but stock should be fine to get this thingy to 2.4?
Well I might be able to get my CPU ot 2.58, but it refuses to stay stable at 2.6, so the rule of "your mileage may vary" is very true indeed. Manchester 3800X2's are said to not be able to clock as high as the Toledo's. Also, even my RAM w/ heatspreaders is supposed to only go to 2.9, but it's running at about 2.7 or 2.8V. I think what may be holding you back as well is the mixed RAM. They're most likely 2 different types, so you might want to try and take out the 2x256 sticks and trying again to see what you get.
 
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Well, if I could get you guys a screenshot of the bios, would you guys be able to tell me which is which? CPU-Z says im running at 4:3:3:8 and yet the bios read its as 2.5:8:3:4????
that would not be a bad idea. screenies are always helpful when it comes to figuring out a problem.
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Alrigth thanks for the help. Well, removing the other ram didn't make a difference, but I don't have them in right now.

Alright, here are some screenies.
http://e.imagehost.org/download/0879/cpuzram
http://e.imagehost.org/0272/IMG_0236.jpg
http://e.imagehost.org/0988/IMG_0237.jpg
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http://e.imagehost.org/0738/IMG_0241.jpg
Edited by Domino - 11/30/08 at 1:44pm
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That's what I thought. The "SPD" tab does not show your current timings.
The "Memory" tab does however.
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from what I could see you may be trying to overclock your ram too much. we did not get a cpuz screen shot of actual ram spd. if you select ram spd in bios to 166 instead of 200 then you will be able to push it a little more. also you have your ram timings set for auto. it may work out for you but static settings are always better for stablility when overclocking. I don't think you really need more then 2.7v to ram. try lowering your ram boot speed to 166 and see what kind of speed you get in cpuz
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If you have your memory set to 200MHz then I think we might have found your problem.
In my bios, setting the memory to 200 means a /10 divider. If that is the case here as well then its probably the ram that can't handle 220MHz. Try lowering it and see how it goes.
 
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Can we get a shot of your "Memory" tab as HothBase has said? It should be reading 2.5-3-4-8-2T. This is too tight for DDR 440 based on the SPD for DDR 400.
     
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