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well, in short...your shorting the life of the product...by how much...no one really knows...
How do you mean? You do the same thing as desktops. You just lack all their options and cooling capabilities. You watch your temps. If you do your general comment becomes nonsensical? I mean heat is basically what kills. If heat is not an issue your comment lacks foundation and becomes ridiculous.

That said to poster you responded to. Sadly on this site dedicated to OC'ing. Many lack real knowledge as to what they do and why they do. They get into this complicated number puzzle. They lack any kind of clear understanding of what they do or why they do. They simply have this voltage or that voltage or this timing or that timing parroted to them.

They lack any understanding of why? Or an overview. It is as said parroting. Also called mimicking. A parrot that says "close the door" does not understand English. It does say an English phrase. That is it. Same goes for 90+% here.

If you follow all the basic rules (control heat) you will be fine. It is not like notebooks and desktops follow different laws of nature, or physics.

OC your notebook unless it is an HP or has a 8600m.
    
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How do you mean? You do the same thing as desktops. You just lack all their options and cooling capabilities. You watch your temps. If you do your general comment becomes nonsensical? I mean heat is basically what kills. If heat is not an issue your comment lacks foundation and becomes ridiculous.
1:are you trying to point something out?
my laptop has the best cooling system in the world of laptops so im not sure what your getting at.
2: any over clocking adds un due wear and tear period. just how much is up for debate.
3: as for that comment. im just reiterating what others said. i over clock because i can, not because i have too. and since i hold all the 9800m gtx records, i think i know little bit about over clocking. that goes for the 9800m gt 8800m gts 9800m gts and the 8600m gs, unless of course some one beat that score out lately.

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That said to poster you responded to. Sadly on this site dedicated to OC'ing. Many lack real knowledge as to what they do and why they do. They get into this complicated number puzzle. They lack any kind of clear understanding of what they do or why they do. They simply have this voltage or that voltage or this timing or that timing parroted to them.

They lack any understanding of why? Or an overview. It is as said parroting. Also called mimicking. A parrot that says "close the door" does not understand English. It does say an English phrase. That is it. Same goes for 90+% here.

If you follow all the basic rules (control heat) you will be fine. It is not like notebooks and desktops follow different laws of nature, or physics.

OC your notebook unless it is an HP or has a 8600m.
and your right, it's quite a few people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to over clocking and what drives a system to the upper limits. last time i check, 8600's we're the chips most likely to fry in an hp notebook. had one. temps were around 100'c on that chip. why? because the chips is way to hot for a single fan/heat sink solution...but then you took your hp all the way apart like i did so you would already know that right.
that's if you had one.

although i see you got an asus though. what kind of numbers you getting with it? are they orb verified?
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When I try and abuse with all I can think of? I idle at 40C I think. And do not go above 72C. OC'd running ATITool and other stress tests. 3DMark06, orthos.

I just don't have heat issues. Sorry.

ORB certified? You don't trust me? Let me get this straight? No money on the line?
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hummm, maybe we got off on the wrong foot...
in your case, this may very well be true, but not for everyone else. each system is different. including the room temp which has a vast effect on gpu temps.
example. my np9262 idles as low as 38'c on a cold day, but on a warm one it will idle 43 to 47. this is in sli mode. i have yet to burn up a laptop by over clocking and really don't plan on it. . this is why the differ from desktops. the voltage is unlocked in a desktop, while locked down in a laptop. usually the driver will crash before you reach peak temps or the infamous driver downclock will kick in before over heating.now if the temps are high and your fan/heat sink are cover in lint and dust. chance look pretty good at frying something...but still not a for sure thing. unless your running an amd cpu..you can pack it in because your chip is frying. intels can take some heat and shut off. with the gpusyou can get up to around 100+ before the thermal kicks in. most are set at 90 with an 8 degree threshold making it 98 before downclocking you to 2d clocks and dropping your voltage.

remember...not all laptops are created equal... you probaly have a decent one....but some of those others....don't. and lack of knowledge has them on the brink of thermal shut down....

as for orb....i believe no one.
if you aint there, your run aint considered legit. to many people running around flubbing scores..lol. and it's very simple and easy to post to orb. and everyone can see just what you did. might not be able to see your over clocks, but can see you ran the software without disabling stuff to get a better score... we caught quite a few people doing this.
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hummm, maybe we got off on the wrong foot...
in your case, this may very well be true, but not for everyone else. each system is different. including the room temp which has a vast effect on gpu temps.
example. my np9262 idles as low as 38'c on a cold day, but on a warm one it will idle 43 to 47. this is in sli mode. i have yet to burn up a laptop by over clocking and really don't plan on it. . this is why the differ from desktops. the voltage is unlocked in a desktop, while locked down in a laptop. usually the driver will crash before you reach peak temps or the infamous driver downclock will kick in before over heating.now if the temps are high and your fan/heat sink are cover in lint and dust. chance look pretty good at frying something...but still not a for sure thing. unless your running an amd cpu..you can pack it in because your chip is frying. intels can take some heat and shut off. with the gpusyou can get up to around 100+ before the thermal kicks in. most are set at 90 with an 8 degree threshold making it 98 before downclocking you to 2d clocks and dropping your voltage.

remember...not all laptops are created equal... you probaly have a decent one....but some of those others....don't. and lack of knowledge has them on the brink of thermal shut down....

as for orb....i believe no one.
if you aint there, your run aint considered legit. to many people running around flubbing scores..lol. and it's very simple and easy to post to orb. and everyone can see just what you did. might not be able to see your over clocks, but can see you ran the software without disabling stuff to get a better score... we caught quite a few people doing this.
OK I did not mean to get off to a bad foot. That said you continue to miss? You have the beast from the East? You have SLI?

If you ever go to Xotic I am powerpunk, I mean powerpack.

Anyway not sure I get your points?

On this site I have issues when recommended to not OC?

Sorry maybe the name?

Edit: I thought this was a thread about cutting edge notebooks? Sorry all you FX owners with low resolution and slow CPU's!
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dammn you powerpack!...lol

what up man
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I guess I fall into Asus claim on how 90%+ members here are just "mimicking" the methods of overclocking. Either way, i went ahead and OCed my 9800m gts and didn't get that much of an improvement in 3dmark06. I gained 535 points.

stock figures - 600/799/1500.
OC figures - 720/930/1590.

My max temps with it being OCed and under load is 75c. I went back to original settings. didnt want to run the card at that heat for no gains in fps.
Edited by GTO_VR4 - 3/25/09 at 8:38pm
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I guess I fall into Asus claim on how 90%+ members here are just "mimicking" the methods of overclocking. Either way, i went ahead and OCed my 9800m gts and didn't get that much of an improvement in 3dmark06. I gained 535 points.

stock figures - 600/799/1500.
OC figures - 720/930/1590.

My max temps with it being OCed and under load is 75c. I went back to original settings. didnt want to run the card at that heat for no gains in fps.
that's because you need to move the shaders up to like 1800
Main test results 3DMark 11115 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 5335
SM 3.0 Score 4987
CPU Score 2491
753/1009/1850
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If I give 20mhz+ on either settings, i get artifacts or driver issues >_<. Actually no, for the shaders, when I went past 1590, benchmark scores started to dropping. johnkss, do you have any messengers?
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GTO 533 ain't chump change? What do you want? 6,000 extra?

1590 on notebook?

I think I just remembered JohnKss. He had the record for his notebook a month or two back on 3DMark06.

If you want to play with a big dog at least know he did some big stuff!

Edit: Thanks (JK) for the 3DMark calculator buddy!
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