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post #12491 of 19729
Watch the video. The tech mentions the magnets when he puts them back in at around the 7:20 mark or so. If you watch it you can NOT miss them unless you aren't paying attention.

You can see the various parts labeled in the pic on this site, but they don't really show you just how powerful they are like the video does.

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Driv...d-Turbines.htm
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post #12492 of 19729
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Originally Posted by T3h_Ch33z_Muncha View Post
i'm not disagreeing with having small magnets in a case, i'm just saying a magnet as incredibly powerful as the rare earth ones used in hard drives would certainly be enough to erase a drive if rubbed over a platter. Therefore there must be something stopping that happening.
Again. Look at the video I linked to and you'll see that the magnets are NOT shielded in any way, shape, or form. They sit there right out in the open next to the platter.
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post #12493 of 19729
Well,

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post #12494 of 19729
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Anyone else have issues with fans whining on the bottom slot of the 690II? I tried three different fans: SFlex F, Gentle Typhoon, and a CM R4. All three produced a clearly audible whine when placed on the bottom 120mm slot. It's bad enough to give you a headache. I eventually decided to sacrifice the CM R4 for a fan shroud and that finally fixed it. The bottom 120mm is a major cooler for me too. It decreased my 5850/CPU by 3c and 4c respectively.
Do you have the dust filter on the bottom by any chance? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause that, since it is 3 fans and not one making the noise.
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post #12495 of 19729
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
Watch the video. The tech mentions the magnets when he puts them back in at around the 7:20 mark or so. If you watch it you can NOT miss them unless you aren't paying attention.

You can see the various parts labeled in the pic on this site, but they don't really show you just how powerful they are like the video does.

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Driv...d-Turbines.htm
Oh, well you didn't tell us to watch the video. All you said was to see 3:40 and 7:20 which I did.

Now I can see why it's safe to have these magnets in the drive: it's due to their placement and their angle. They're off to the side, and they're horizontal; but if you were to take them out and hover them over the platter, then yeah, I suppose some damage to the data would occur.
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post #12496 of 19729
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Do you have the dust filter on the bottom by any chance? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause that, since it is 3 fans and not one making the noise.
I actually tried it with it on and off. The SFlex got much louder with it on but the R4 and GT pretty much stayed the same. I'm guessing it has to do with static pressure since the shroud fixed it.
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post #12497 of 19729
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Oh, well you didn't tell us to watch the video. All you said was to see 3:40 and 7:20 which I did.
Most people are intelligent enough to figure that out without needing to be told, at least anyone over the age of 5.

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Now I can see why it's safe to have these magnets in the drive: it's due to their placement and their angle. They're off to the side, and they're horizontal; but if you were to take them out and hover them over the platter, then yeah, I suppose some damage to the data would occur.
The point is that you guys are worried about adverse affects to your hard drives from having what is essentially a small, low powered refrigerator magnet on your case located several inches to a over a foot away from them when you have much larger and more powerful magnets right inside the hard drives themselves. That proves your irrational fear of magnets and your total lack of comprehension of what it takes in the way of magnetic fields to actually have an adverse affect on them.

Now can we move on and get back to something more pertinent?
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post #12498 of 19729
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Now I can see why it's safe to have these magnets in the drive: it's due to their placement and their angle. They're off to the side, and they're horizontal; but if you were to take them out and hover them over the platter, then yeah, I suppose some damage to the data would occur.
I've got a hard drive I don't care about and a few magnets of different strength. I'm tempted to see how strong of a magnet is required to corrupt data. Only issue would be how to detect corruption on a 250GB HDD filled with data?
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I've got a hard drive I don't care about and a few magnets of different strength. I'm tempted to see how strong of a magnet is required to corrupt data. Only issue would be how to detect corruption on a 250GB HDD filled with data?
Do it! Run a chkdsk on the drive first so you can see if it has any bad sectors or any files that need fixing. Let it fix all of those and then use the magnets. Chkdsk again afterwards and see if there's anything different
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we're not worried about small magnets. I never said that was the case. I'm just saying there must be something protecting the platters from the motor magnet, because i've seen weaker magnets FUBAR'ing hard drives. Running a magnet over a hard drive doesn't just corrupt the data on the platters; it can screw up the controller leading to a bricked drive.
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