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If your ram is not too tall, a push/pull fan setup might help.
More powerful fans might help, but there is always the noise trade-off. That's an individual decision.

As you say, an exhaust fan and more case fans could help too.
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I need 3-4 more fans, 2 at the top, 1 at the side near the CPU and I don't know if I need one at the bottom. CPU in idle is 30-35C, with OC to 4.6GHZ goes up to 70-80C (2500K). Any suggestions?
Mount the cpu heatsink fan on the other side of the heatsink blowing towards the back. You might have ti shift it up slightly on the heatsink so it clears the ram or move the ram to the right one slot so the fan clears, but that would probably help a bit.

The most important case fan to add will be the rear case fan.

Depending on what fan you are using on the heatsink a fan with more static pressure like a CoolerMaster BladeMaster might help as you have a lot of mass to move the air past. The BladeMaster moves a lot of air, has a lot of static pressure, and is relatively quiet for the amount of air it moves. It's also a PWM fan so you can can setup the bios to control it automatically to slow down while the cpu is basically idling and doing low cpu usage tasks and would then speed up when the cpu is under a heavier load.

It's very doubtful that a fan in the side panel by the cpu will do anything but make the system louder. All the air will do is bounce off of the top of the cpu heatsink anyway so it won't help with temps.
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Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post
If your ram is not too tall, a push/pull fan setup might help.
More powerful fans might help, but there is always the noise trade-off. That's an individual decision.

As you say, an exhaust fan and more case fans could help too.
Yea, I hate loud fans.

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Mount the cpu heatsink fan on the other side of the heatsink blowing towards the back. You might have ti shift it up slightly on the heatsink so it clears the ram or move the ram to the right one slot so the fan clears, but that would probably help a bit.

The most important case fan to add will be the rear case fan.

Depending on what fan you are using on the heatsink a fan with more static pressure like a CoolerMaster BladeMaster might help as you have a lot of mass to move the air past. The BladeMaster moves a lot of air, has a lot of static pressure, and is relatively quiet for the amount of air it moves. It's also a PWM fan so you can can setup the bios to control it automatically to slow down while the cpu is basically idling and doing low cpu usage tasks and would then speed up when the cpu is under a heavier load.

It's very doubtful that a fan in the side panel by the cpu will do anything but make the system louder. All the air will do is bounce off of the top of the cpu heatsink anyway so it won't help with temps.
So you're saying to change the heatsink fan so it will push air towards the heatsink itself? My ram is pretty low, I have this set:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

and you're suggesting to put another fan(BladeMaster) on the other side of the heatsink?
I bought the Scythe SCMG-2100 so I have the fan that goes with it.
What about these fans:

Noctua NF-P12-1300 120mm

Scythe GentleTyphoon D1225C12B4AP-14 120mm

Thanks
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Yes, mount the fan so it blows INTO the heatsink. That is a much more efficient way for it to work and should lower temps anywhere from 5 to 10C under load.

If you decide to run two fans, one blowing into the heatsink and the other blowing out in what is commonly referred to as a Push/Pull setup both fans need to be the same, preferably the same brand and model.

The AP14's don't have much in the way of static pressure so they are better as case fans. The AP-15' have a lot more static pressure and are better for use on a heatsink or radiator where it require more pressure to force the air between the fins. The Noctua NF-P12 is even worse than the AP-14's for use on a heatsink/rad. The AP-15 would probably be about 4C better than the Noctua and 2-3C better than the AP-14. Not sure what comes stock with your Scythe SCMG-2100 so I can't comment if any of those would be better than the stock fan or not.
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Here I've changed it:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2n9b5ds.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/25iyxir.jpg

stock fan that comes with Scythe SCMG-2100 is 1300 RPM, I don't think they are selling it separately.
Edited by Moshe1010 - 4/1/11 at 5:36pm
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RPM,s don't really tell you much. What matters is CFM and for a heatsink or radiator the static pressure. Without knowing what those specs are for the stock fan it's impossible to know for sure if a different fan would lower temps or not, but adding a rear case fan will definitely help.
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Here I got the model number of the fan, but they are not making them anymore (at leat no in 1300RPM version, they have 1200RPM from the same kind: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185058)
can I buy the 1200RPM and do the push/pull setup, while the other one is 1300RPM?
Model Name:
Slip Stream 120 PWM

Model No.:
SY1225SL12LM-P

Fan Dimensions:
120 x 120 x 25 mm

Fan Speed:
0 (+200 rpm) - 1,300 rpm (±10%)

Noise Level:
0 - 26,50 dBA

Air Flow:
0 - 74,25 CFM = 126 m³/h

Weight:
117 g

Connector:
3-Pin (4-Pin Molex Adapter include)

Bearing Type:
Sleeve Bearing

MTBF:
30,000 Hours

Mounted in following CPU Cooler
Kabuto
Mugen 2
Mugen 2 Rev.B
Edited by Moshe1010 - 4/1/11 at 10:09pm
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Well I think I'll put the stock fan that I have now on my heatsink as the rear case fan, and buy 2 new fans to make the push/pull setup. Any suggestions for 2 good fans to make this setup?

Thanks.
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Okay, that SlipStream would be about the same as the AP-14 as far as cooling would go.

If you want great cooling then either a pair of High Speed Yate Loons or CoolerMaster BladeMasters. The Yates don't have PWM so you would either need to run them full speed all of the time, use a fan controller to slow them down, or have a motherboard that will allow you to manually control the fan speed like the Gigabyte boards do. Otherwise the BladeMasters do have PWM and would be able to automatically slow down and speed up as the temps dictate. They cost more than the Yates do, but they are more convenient. You probably wouldn't see more than 1 or 2C difference between the Yates and the BladeMasters.
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Ordered (2XBladeMasters).
Thank you very much for you help!
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