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Now I want to swap my 3 120s for 2 140mm's frown.gif
Works good as it is, but it could be quieter.
(perhaps it's because I have the case over my desk, a few inches away from my head)
post #17422 of 19729
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Originally Posted by ginger_nuts View Post

Frankly you do not need many fans in this case.
I would suggest placing 2x 140mm fans on top a 140mm fan at front.
All the other fans make a minimal difference.
My personal preference of fans are Bitfenix Spectre Pro LED or the Spectre LED. They are both very quiet even at full speed, and there lights are amazing.
If LED's are not your thing get the non-LED one's.
As for a fan controller go for something with no bells n whistle's, they tend to be a lot better and reliable.
I think you can't go wrong with anything from Lamptron, Scythe or NZXT.
I have had a couple of Aerocool controllers and did not like either.
This is all my opinion and my 2cents.gif

Thanks for the quick response. I like that fan setup that you described. Do the particular fans matter? I've read things about different angled blades, fan blades with various patterns, RPM ranges and so on. Some benchmarks talk about how some fans are better at pushing air, whereas others are better at cooling.

I thought I had problems selecting a GPU, but this is an entirely new and detailed element. It also seems important, since great fans seem to make a difference.

Here's the case layout:
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You recommend that I only occupy all the Top Fan slots, and the slot labeled "Front fan" correct?

Would the Scythe Gentle Typhoons do the trick? What about PWM Kaze Maru 2 or Thermalright TY-140

I'm not concerned with fan prices. My only concern is that it get the job done properly.
    
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I didn't even know I could fit a fan in front of the hdd cage tongue.gif
Now I'm reconsidering the mid case fan thing.
I'll definitely remove my rear exhaust and place it there, after removing the grill and pci slot covers.

As for fan brands and models, each is different, noise, cfm and static pressure wise, as well as bearing type, and types of positions supported.
(sleeve fans are noisy and slowly die if you place them horizontal paralell to the floor).
For case fans, slow spinning big fans are good, cause you don't need to work against high resistances to get air moving in the case.
For cpu fans, you need faster rpm, or static pressure, to move the air accross the fin stack.

I'm thinking of selling mine and getting a couple of ty-140's. Great performing fans suitable for every position.
post #17424 of 19729
Yes I was meaning the top two and front fan slot only.

The front one place in the lower sitting, with the bottom HDD cage removed.

When I did some primitive testing I found my gpu temp didn't change from having all the other fans up full.


The science behind fans, and how they work is amazing.

Basically all fans are good enough for the case, fans on heat sinks and radiators need more static pressure to push air through the fins.


The big question is the sound they make.

Slower spinning fans make less noise at a lower pitch. But generally do not move as much air.

And the opposite for fast spinning fans.


Then the question about how much air do you need to move in and out of the case is asked.

My personal believe is not much, many components in the case will operate at full speed and then some with minimal cooling.

A good example is the stock coolers on reference GPU cards. Even at full speed they are not moving much air.
post #17425 of 19729
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Originally Posted by ginger_nuts View Post

Yes I was meaning the top two and front fan slot only.
The front one place in the lower sitting, with the bottom HDD cage removed.
When I did some primitive testing I found my gpu temp didn't change from having all the other fans up full.
The science behind fans, and how they work is amazing.
Basically all fans are good enough for the case, fans on heat sinks and radiators need more static pressure to push air through the fins.
The big question is the sound they make.
Slower spinning fans make less noise at a lower pitch. But generally do not move as much air.
And the opposite for fast spinning fans.
Then the question about how much air do you need to move in and out of the case is asked.
My personal believe is not much, many components in the case will operate at full speed and then some with minimal cooling.
A good example is the stock coolers on reference GPU cards. Even at full speed they are not moving much air.

Thank you so much for your feedback thus far. I found your posts to be extremely informative. I still have several follow-up questions.

Would you replace the fans that come with the heatsinks?

I would like to keep the hot air flowing out as frequently as possible; I don't want it to build up in the case. My target temps are 70C with some overclock, and I would be uncomfortable with 80C+. That being said, I don't know how I should mix and match the fan speeds. Wouldn't the best approach be to get the fastest and most powerful fans WITH a controller, so that I can modify the speeds?

I was originally planning on using the Scythe Gentle Typhoons for the case fans without doing much research into fans. I am now interested in using the 120mm TY-140s to replace the stock heatsink (D14 or SilverArrow) fans.

It would be ideal if my computer can be reasonably quiet, without going above my desired temperatures while under "stress" (I.e. playing battlefield 3 on highest settings with AA modified for increased Frames Per Second).

But, thinking about it... in a game the noise probably wouldn't bother me much. I'll have headphones on, and all I'll hear is in game sound. However, when I'm doing other tasks (even if I'm on Skype, while gaming) it would be nice if the computer noise is minimal as to not become a distraction.
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post #17426 of 19729
Replacing the fans on some heatsinks are near mandatory, but the two coolers you are looking at seem to have exceptional reviews.

Both in noise and performance, but I have no personal experience in either.



You could use fast and powerful fans slowed down.

If doing this make sure you find out what starting volts they require and/or if the controller gives a starting 12v signal to start them (some do).



It's a personal choice I have to try to keep my computer as quite as possible, even during gaming, but it is when I am on the internet, minecraft and other simple tasks I really like it to be ultra quiet.

This being said the computer can be so quiet that your GPU then becomes the problem.
post #17427 of 19729
Hi guys, long time lurker. Some of these case builds you guys have make me very jealous:thumb: I just got my 690 ii advanced in and everything transferred over from my Rosewill challenger last night and all I have to say is, what an upgrade smile.gif To my surprise my 690 came with rubber grommets and the bigger cpu cutout which was a nice surprise. I thought those were only with the new model with the usb 3.0. Mine is the advanced older one. Not sure when they started including those with the 690 advance (not the 3.0 usb version) but that was nice. Anyway just wanted to give everyone a heads up that the grommets and cpu cutout have been updated it seems on the non usb 3.0 versions as well. Very happy camper here.thumb.gif
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post #17428 of 19729
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Hi guys, long time lurker. Some of these case builds you guys have make me very jealous:thumb: I just got my 690 ii advanced in and everything transferred over from my Rosewill challenger last night and all I have to say is, what an upgrade smile.gif To my surprise my 690 came with rubber grommets and the bigger cpu cutout which was a nice surprise. I thought those were only with the new model with the usb 3.0. Mine is the advanced older one. Not sure when they started including those with the 690 advance (not the 3.0 usb version) but that was nice. Anyway just wanted to give everyone a heads up that the grommets and cpu cutout have been updated it seems on the non usb 3.0 versions as well. Very happy camper here.thumb.gif

 

Welcome to the forum buddy, hope to see you around :D

 

Also glad to hear you got an updated version as well.

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Does anyone know where I could buy that mesh thing used in this case? Preferably in Europe tongue.gif
And where could I get some small spring latches, hinges and stuff? I'm still thinking about hiding my card reader in the upper dock but it's impossible to find necessary stuff from small country like Estonia.
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What mesh thing are you referring to? If you mean the basic case mesh, maybe try a metal scrap yard. If you mean the vga (graphics card bracket) just use anything no conductive to hold it up thumb.gif
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