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All of the fans are old 63CFM Scythe fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185029 Though I'm not sure if my controller is maxing them, since it can only output 7 watts.

I tried searching for this but every result is from someone with a stack full of tools that ripped the top grill apart, and I don't have the tools Any advice is appreciated.
Get some better fans like CM R4's
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-...pr_product_top

Or buy some 140mm Yate Loon medium speed fans for the top exhaust from Petra's but there out of stock at the moment.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/14yalod1cafa1.html

Or buy some 120mm Yate Loon med. speed fans. There out of stock as well.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html

I didn't cut out my grilles but I do have 140mm Yate Loons for the top exhaust and I use 120mm Yates for the bottom intake and front intake. I use a Antec Tricool 120mm for the rear exhaust and use a Scythe Kaze 120mm for side intake fan. I get good temps for both cpu and system.

Just my
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post #6692 of 19729
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I tried to do a decent job with the wire management, but it was my first time. That darn 24pin connector just would not fit behind the mobo tray - couldn't close the side panel.
No offense intended, but just brotherly love: you didn't try hard enough. First time or not, you can still do a much better job than that. If I can do a very anal and very clean and almost-perfect cable management job, then anyone can; even you. So go for it! You have nothing to lose but time, and what you have to gain is much better-looking cable management, better airflow, and probably even lower temps by a degree or two (maybe even 3 or 4 - you never know).

Additionally, everyone else can close their side panels with all their cables behind, including the 24-pin, so there's no reason why you can't either. All you have to do is lay the case on its side, then put a little bit of pressure on it while you slide it shut. But before you begin applying pressure 'n' sliding it, make sure the tabs are aligned with the holes so that you don't have to stop what you're doing and bend the tabs back to where they were. That can be annoying when all you want to do is get the panel on and be done. So, it can be done; you just have to try harder, just like with the cable management. If you don't feel like you have the energy, then do it anyway and the energy/strength will come to you as you need it. It did for me. As I got more and more into it, I got more and more energy and enthusiasm for it, and before I knew it....... well, I'll have to post a pic for ya!
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I have a question for the wizards regarding fans. I have:

1 Bottom intake
1 Front intake
2 Top Exhaust (inside the case)
1 Rear Exhaust

With my Zalman MFC1 fan controller maxed, I don't really feel much air moving when I put my hand over the top of the case. Should I move those two top fans to the area just under the top grill? Also, I don't have a lower side intake because I feel like it would disturb the updraft from the bottom intake. Is that valid?

All of the fans are old 63CFM Scythe fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185029 Though I'm not sure if my controller is maxing them, since it can only output 7 watts.

I tried searching for this but every result is from someone with a stack full of tools that ripped the top grill apart, and I don't have the tools Any advice is appreciated.
The only answer that I would be able to give you is basically repeat information because the only way you're really going to feel the airflow out the top, or from the front intake fan (with your hand in the case) is to remove that plastic stuff that almost resembles a honeycomb pattern. And for the front intake, this also means you should cut the screen out on the filter so that it's converted to a plain old fan mount.

Go ahead and do this test:
  1. Turn the system off.
  2. Unplug and remove the front intake fan.
  3. Plug it back in with the fan just sitting out somewhere.
  4. Keep the filter within reach.
  5. Turn the system back on.
  6. Enter the BIOS so you can quickly turn the system off when you're done with this test.
  7. Put your hand in front of the fan to feel the airflow and memorize it.
  8. Now put the filter on as though you're about to put it back on the front of the case.
  9. Feel the difference in the airflow. You will notice that it's like you just turned the fan off.
  10. Now take the filter away and notice how the airflow returns.
  11. You can now turn the system off and put the fan back in the way it was.
This is because the air is being very-heavily diffused by the filter. The same thing is happening with the fans by the metal and plastic mesh. The air is being diffused so much that it just kills the airflow. It's like those diffusers on hair dryers that you use to prevent messing up your hair when you're trying to dry it.

So that's why people cut the metal and plastic mesh out as well as the screen on the filter.
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post #6693 of 19729
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Hi all - just found this thread and though I'd display my new build.

Here's the old one:



And here's the new one:



Blue lights aren't my style yet

I tried to do a decent job with the wire management, but it was my first time. That darn 24pin connector just would not fit behind the mobo tray - couldn't close the side panel.

I have a question for the wizards regarding fans. I have:

1 Bottom intake
1 Front intake
2 Top Exhaust (inside the case)
1 Rear Exhaust

With my Zalman MFC1 fan controller maxed, I don't really feel much air moving when I put my hand over the top of the case. Should I move those two top fans to the area just under the top grill? Also, I don't have a lower side intake because I feel like it would disturb the updraft from the bottom intake. Is that valid?

All of the fans are old 63CFM Scythe fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185029 Though I'm not sure if my controller is maxing them, since it can only output 7 watts.

I tried searching for this but every result is from someone with a stack full of tools that ripped the top grill apart, and I don't have the tools Any advice is appreciated.

im with twopenises on this one try harder. your front header (power sw reset sw and hdd leds) could go in the whole next to your power supply same with the usb and audio wires. and just like twocables err i mean twopenises said your 24 pin will fit behind the motherboard tray you might have to lay it on the open side and put the side on, use both of your forearms to push along the edges with all the clips sticking out and your fingers at the front part for all the tabs along the front panel. also i would split up your hard drives move the top one down 1 spot and the one below it down 2 spots so there in the air flow from the front fan more and have a space between them.

now:
hdd
hdd
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after:
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hdd
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hdd
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lol@gotspeed

I did forget to mention that I like the fact that the unused hard drive rail mounts have been removed. Too many people leave them in not understanding that they can and should remove them.
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I have the three steps of my cable management.

Step 1, my 4890 hadn't arrived yet so it was just a rough slap-it-together to test for DOAs:


Step 2, 4890 here, patched it up, still not perfect:


Step 3, the next day my 5 Yate Loons got there, and while installing them I decided to go gung-ho on the cables, and behold, final step:
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Damn, Afrodisiac! That's nice! I love the detailing that you did!!!
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Afrodisiac
Great job on the cable management Afro, i like it +rep!

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Originally Posted by Kzage View Post
Still waiting for some money to get 3 Scythe Gentletyphoons for the Rad.
Thats one insane casemod you got there Kzage, it just looks awsome! + rep!

btw, is there any chance my 24 pin wil go between mobo and mobotray?
cause its to short to go behind the mobo, and my 24pin connector is at the left of my mobo, so i dont think it will fit between the side of the mobo and the back of the case... is there anyone with the same problem?
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Thanks for the nice comments guys
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btw, is there any chance my 24 pin wil go between mobo and mobotray?
cause its to short to go behind the mobo, and my 24pin connector is at the left of my mobo, so i dont think it will fit between the side of the mobo and the back of the case... is there anyone with the same problem?
Thanks Bastiaan! Much appreciated.

I doubt the 24 will be able to fit there, perhaps if you either got rid of your sleeving or sleeved them individually they might fit.
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Originally Posted by Kzage View Post
Still waiting for some money to get 3 Scythe Gentletyphoons for the Rad.

That's some bloody good photography right there.
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very clean! i like it!
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