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oh ok... i only use the mouse for clicking links, then my right hand flies back to the keyboard. Now if only you had three hands instead of two penises...
Ah ha, I see why it's so economical for you: it's an established habit, so therefore you don't have to think about it one bit! Nice.

But my way is still better, ergonomically speaking. hehe

Oh and I would definitely love to have a third arm/hand. After all, I need two hands to type, and then one more to operate the mouse at a moment's notice. lol So, I'd always have one hand resting on the mouse and then two hands on the keyboard. lol
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Ah ha, I see why it's so economical for you: it's an established habit, so therefore you don't have to think about it one bit! Nice.

But my way is still better, ergonomically speaking. hehe

Oh and I would definitely love to have a third arm/hand. After all, I need two hands to type, and then one more to operate the mouse at a moment's notice. lol So, I'd always have one hand resting on the mouse and then two hands on the keyboard. lol
hmm, why not have 5 arms+hands? cause if you are going to mod your body even more, why not give it a try...
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Right, I am putting heatshrink tubing on my fan cables. I have done my 3 pin extension cables already and I am just wondering if it is worth putting the tubing on the stock CM690 fans? I would put them if I would be 100% sure that I would use the fans, but should I get some better fans first and then put the tubing on them? Or are the stock fans worth it?

I have read lots of people have replaced them right away...

I already have 3 Scythe Slipstream 1900RPM fans as intake, so if I should replace the stock fans, which ones would be good to get?

High speed Yate loons? Cooler Master R4?

I am using the Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme fan controller, so I can always turn the fans down if they get too loud...
Edited by Floy - 9/29/09 at 4:52am
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post #8114 of 19729
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hmm, why not have 5 arms+hands? cause if you are going to mod your body even more, why not give it a try...
rofl I'd end up looking like those two multi-armed beasts in Mortal Kombat 2!
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Right, I am putting heatshrink tubing on my fan cables. I have done my 3 pin extension cables already and I am just wondering if it is worth putting the tubing on the stock CM690 fans? I would put them if I would be 100% sure that I would use the fans, but should I get some better fans first and then put the tubing on them? Or are the stock fans worth it?

I have read lots of people have replaced them right away...

I already have 3 Scythe Slipstream 1900RPM fans as intake, so if I should replace the stock fans, which ones would be good to get?

High speed Yate loons? Cooler Master R4?

I am using the Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme fan controller, so I can always turn the fans down if they get too loud...
Well, I guess my way of answering that is this: what is the temperature in your computer room (your "ambient temp")? If it's like 20-23°C or something, then there's practically absolutely no reason to have more than three decent 120mm fans in the CM 690. After all, the main reason to keep temperatures down is to help keep massive overclocks stable during full load when they're generating the most heat. I mean, excessive heat can easily make an otherwise-stable overclock become unstable.

So, if you have the need to lower any temperatures, then I guess it would be a good idea to replace the stock fans with fans that are just as good as the 3 Scythe Slipstreams. But if your temperatures are fine, then you could experiment and just eliminate the stock fans altogether, and then use one Scythe as a rear exhaust, one on the side panel as intake by the GPU, and then one in the front as intake just to see how your temperatures are during load and during heavy gaming. If they're still fine and if everything is still rock-solid stable, then you know that your case cooling is still excellent with just the 3 Scythe Slipstreams.
Edited by TwoCables - 9/29/09 at 5:03am
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In the summer my room can get to about 30°C!!! In the winter it usually is around 25-26°C with the radiator on...so my room is pretty warm throughout the year. I never like being cold.

So I am guessing it would be best to have a nice number of fans then to lower the temperatures?
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In the summer my room can get to about 30°C!!! In the winter it usually is around 25-26°C with the radiator on...so my room is pretty warm throughout the year. I never like being cold.

So I am guessing it would be best to have a nice number of fans then to lower the temperatures?
In my limited experience, I would have to say that it depends on whether or not the temperatures of your components are getting too high. But if they're not getting too high, then you may be able to get away with less fans. But if they're getting so high that you sometimes experience slight instability of some kind, then it most certainly means that better airflow/heat dissipation is needed.

I like to think practically for these kinds of things.
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In the summer my room can get to about 30°C!!! In the winter it usually is around 25-26°C with the radiator on...so my room is pretty warm throughout the year. I never like being cold.

So I am guessing it would be best to have a nice number of fans then to lower the temperatures?
ah, your room is hot! mine is now about 16-18c, kinda cold, but in the summer sometimes its 30c..

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In my limited experience, I would have to say that it depends on whether or not the temperatures of your components are getting too high. But if they're not getting too high, then you may be able to get away with less fans. But if they're getting so high that you sometimes experience slight instability of some kind, then it most certainly means that better airflow/heat dissipation is needed.

I like to think practically for these kinds of things.
well, its not hard at all. What are your temps? if your cpu max temp is 60c or higher you need some cold air. For the gpu i cant say it, depends on the max temp and the temp you reach, and if thats hot, you should cool it down.

My gpu reaches 69c if im gaming with fan speed on auto @ 40%. If i put it on 100% its getting around 50c. For my cpu, depending on the ambient, its max 40c. Its up to you, do you like your max temps? if yes, keep it this way, dont you like your max temps? change something, put some extra fans in, check if you can adjust the fan speed etc.
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True

I was just thinking, since I use a fan controller, I could turn down the fans when I do not need them too much (winter) and then then turn them up again when needed (mainly summer). Since fans are very cheap here in my opinion, I could replace the stock fans with better ones so that I would have lots of airflow when needed. How would that sound?

I can feel that my RAM can get pretty warm, even when idle. My CPU is around 40° idle, which is by far not the best temperature at all. Mind you that is with an OC of 3.2ghz. I have been planning on increasing to about 3.5 or 6 for example.
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I just go overkill with my fans. Can't cool your rig too much, now can you? If I owned the fans, they would be in my case is there was room. You should hear my case though. It's a little on the noisy side with five of my Ultra Kaze's running full tilt at 3000rpm. And it runs 24/7 like that. When I turn it off it seems so silent in the house. Surprisingly, the rents don't care, and it's right in the living room!
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True

I was just thinking, since I use a fan controller, I could turn down the fans when I do not need them too much (winter) and then then turn them up again when needed (mainly summer). Since fans are very cheap here in my opinion, I could replace the stock fans with better ones so that I would have lots of airflow when needed. How would that sound?

I can feel that my RAM can get pretty warm, even when idle. My CPU is around 40° idle, which is by far not the best temperature at all. Mind you that is with an OC of 3.2ghz. I have been planning on increasing to about 3.5 or 6 for example.
hmm, if you are going to overclock more you should look into even better air cooling for your cpu, or go watercooling... but what are your stressed temps on that thing?

btw, for your ram you could get something like this: http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSea...productDetails

but thats up to you

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I just go overkill with my fans. Can't cool your rig too much, now can you? If I owned the fans, they would be in my case is there was room. You should hear my case though. It's a little on the noisy side with five of my Ultra Kaze's running full tilt at 3000rpm. And it runs 24/7 like that. When I turn it off it seems so silent in the house. Surprisingly, the rents don't care, and it's right in the living room!
well, i think the same, overkill cooling isnt bad for your rig, only better. But sometimes it makes a little too much noise. fan controllers can help that down, but i dont like to slow down fans.
So i made myselve a silent rig, and that works too, so for the gaming i go with the sig, and for dlling etc i use the green one below
Edited by Bastiaan_NL - 9/29/09 at 5:31am
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