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For me, I like to compare the PSU to a human being: imagine being really warm and all you want is a nice cold glass of water, or all you want is to go into a room where the air is much cooler. But now imagine that instead of a cold glass if water, you get a warm one (not room temp, but warm!) Or, imagine that instead of getting to a room with cooler air, you can only find rooms with warmer air, but yet the coolest place is already too warm for you and all it's doing is making you warmer. But now imagine that the coldest place to be is outside (even if by only 5-10 degrees). So then what do you do? Go outside, of course!

It's the same thing with the power supply: the cooler it is, the better. And the cooler air is almost always outside of the case.
i feel sorry for the psu, it cant even walk away to the cooler room....
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So, the ATX standard is not having the PSU fan facing the components, but rather facing down so that the cables exit the PSU next to the wall/motherboard tray, and so the fan can have proper airflow whether at the top or bottom. Again, that's why there's a vent at the bottom of the case, and that's why the case's feet are so big: it raises the case off the floor in order to allow the airflow to happen.
I see your argument, and it's valid. though that last part isn't. It is, and will continue to be the forum factor standerd for PSU. Please contact your favorate vender in their contact pages within their websites and ask them. Pick up an A+ cert book and read into the night about ATX standers. No if, ands or buts. It may be more effecent, and will provide the benifits of having cooler air over your psu components and will reduce defecenty. I'll give you that. It's pretty common sence. If somone's smart enough to build a pc they know heat rises and cool air sinks based on air density. I'll even extend the plesentry of saying I agree with you that it a better way to cool your PSU!!

But I'll also tell you, you're wrong and I'm right regaurless of how much better of an argument you make, and untill they change the ATX PSU standers in design peramiters the logical statment will never be as you posted above, but insted; It's just more effecent way of cooling your PSU, just not the right way. Well, that is untill they get off their lazzy asses and change it..
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I see your argument, and it's valid. though that last part isn't. It is, and will continue to be the forum factor standerd for PSU. Please contact your favorate vender in their contact pages within their websites and ask them. Pick up an A+ cert book and read into the night about ATX standers. No if, ands or buts. It may be more effecent, and will provide the benifits of having cooler air over your psu components and will reduce defecenty. I'll give you that. It's pretty common sence. If somone's smart enough to build a pc they know heat rises and cool air sinks based on air density. I'll even extend the plesentry of saying I agree with you that it a better way to cool your PSU!!

But I'll also tell you, you're wrong and I'm right regaurless of how much better of an argument you make, and untill they change the ATX PSU standers in design peramiters the logical statment will never be as you posted above, but insted; It's just more effecent way of cooling your PSU, just not the right way. Well, that is untill they get off their lazzy asses and change it..
oh. my. cod. Are you trolling or are you really that stupid?
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Don't get all defensive..
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get out.
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well, i dont say someone is stupid, but if all the psu's ive ever seen, are mounted this way, i say that you are wrong with the form factor atx talking. The only way my psu is correct is with the fan to the bottom, there is not other way mounting it normaly...
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It's better and more effecent to have the psu mounted with the intake fan pulling ambient air from the extierior of the case. It's just making the argument it's not how they were designed within the ATX psu standerds. Don't shoot the messenger. If it wasn't more effecent way to mount the psu they wouldn't make cases like they do on our cs 690's with the air vents on the bottem pannels so the PSU could draw cooler air.
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It's better and more effecent to have the psu mounted with the intake fan pulling ambient air from the extierior of the case. It's just making the argument it's not how they were designed within the ATX psu standerds. Don't shoot the messenger. If it wasn't more effecent way to mount the psu they wouldn't make cases like they do on our cs 690's with the air vents on the bottem pannels so the PSU could draw cooler air.
for factor atx psu's are designed to be with the fan to the bottom, just take a look at all the cases with the psu on top of the case, they all have the fan at the bottom, the only difference between the top and the bottom mounted psu cases is that the psu is at the bottom... so i dont get your point, form factor atx psu are as far as i know ALWAYS mounted with the fan down, unless you change it.
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i feel sorry for the psu, it cant even walk away to the cooler room....
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I see your argument, and it's valid. though that last part isn't. It is, and will continue to be the forum factor standerd for PSU. Please contact your favorate vender in their contact pages within their websites and ask them. Pick up an A+ cert book and read into the night about ATX standers. No if, ands or buts. It may be more effecent, and will provide the benifits of having cooler air over your psu components and will reduce defecenty. I'll give you that. It's pretty common sence. If somone's smart enough to build a pc they know heat rises and cool air sinks based on air density. I'll even extend the plesentry of saying I agree with you that it a better way to cool your PSU!!

But I'll also tell you, you're wrong and I'm right regaurless of how much better of an argument you make, and untill they change the ATX PSU standers in design peramiters the logical statment will never be as you posted above, but insted; It's just more effecent way of cooling your PSU, just not the right way. Well, that is untill they get off their lazzy asses and change it..
I knew that you were going to play the card called "But no matter what, I'm right and you're wrong".

But what are you referring to the standard ATX form factor for? The standard ATX form factor doesn't have anything to do with where the fan is. Go ahead and prove me wrong. But again, ask yourself the following: why is it that when you mount the PSU at the bottom of the case up-side down, the cables that exit the PSU are not right next to the wall/motherboard tray? Why is it that if I were to mount my PSU the way you mount yours that the logo would be up-side down?

I don't understand your logic, nor do I understand your stubbornness. Having the fan pulling in the interior air at the bottom of the case doesn't mean you are conforming to the standard ATX form factor. It has absolutely nothing to do with it.

But ask yourself this too: why do the specifications for bottom-mounted-PSU cases say that it conforms to the standard ATX form factor?
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Fans are always facing "in" twords the the boards. Google it...
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