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Poll Results: Which is the better guitar game?

 
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    Rock Band
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    Guitar Hero 3
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post #1 of 39
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So I went out and got GH3 today. Circuit City had it for $10 off this weekend, plus there was another 10% off online coupon that worked with in-store pickup, plus there's a free download of Aerosmith's "Dream On" that expres today...seemed like it was a good time to buy! (If anyone else wants to get GH3, I would recommend doing it today!) So I've played five songs now, and naturally I'm making comparisons to Rock Band (which I've been playing since Xmas). Here's some thoughts for discussion:

1. Rock Band's presentation is better. I have three specific examples:
  • The energy bar in Rock Band is right underneath the frets, as opposed to the Star Power meter being off to the right in GH3. I don't have to take my eyes off the main part of the game to watch my energy.
  • Hammer ons - I like Rock Band's visual cues for hammer ons (shorter note bars). I guess in GH3 you're just supposed to know that fast notes are always hammer ons?
  • The background animations: GH3's just aren't as good. I watched a drummer move like a crap animated figure from a 90s game and was stunned at how cheap it looked. Rock Bands are very smooth, and the presentation is very "music video" stylish. This doesn't affect game play of course, but it still affects the "polished" feel of the game.
2. Guitar Hero is going to be harder, I can tell. The Easy songs I played were more challenging than the Easy songs in Rock Band. I've heard that GH3 is more challenging than GH1 or GH2, so maybe this is unique to GH3? I'll probably get GH2 once I burn through GH3, so maybe I'll be able to comment later.

3. The guitar: I've heard a lot of feedback about how the GH guitar is better than the Rock Band guitar. Granted I've only played a few songs with it, but I just don't see what the big deal is yet. I tried some Hard songs in Rock Band using the GH Les Paul, and I did a fair amount worse. Some specific comments:
  • Maybe I just need to get used to it, but I'm not sure I like the separation between the fret buttons. I'm just learning to "slide", and I'm tending to miss the buttons on the Les Paul; not really possible with the Rock Band guitar. Maybe once I'm better at sliding, that particular issue will go away.
  • A lot of people have complained about the RB guitar not clicking when strumming, but bah to that I say...that adds nothing that I've detected.
  • Wireless is good, obviously. However, I have to complain about GH3 not letting me play just because my Rock Band guitar is plugged in. I mean, I know I can't play with it...I had my GH3 guitar connected too, so what's the big deal? Nope...you have to unplug the RB guitar before GH3 will let you play at all. How frickin lame.
Obviously Rock Band has drums, bass, and singing that Guitar Hero lacks...but I'm just trying to compare the game aspects that are identical. I'm surely a little biased towards Rock Band since I've been playing it for two months now, but I have to say I think Rock Band pulls off the guitar game a little better than GH3. So what do you think? Have I missed anything, or drawn the wrong conclusion unfairly?
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post #2 of 39
Since you said better guitar game. I voted GH3.

However I find drums on rock band much more fun.

I do not like the hammer on/off notes in rock band for guitar, and no hyperspeed makes the board hard to read on expert.


Also, GH3 is MUCH easier on guitar than rock band. Rock band has less notes in the songs, but the timing window is INSANELY smaller. I would recommend using the GH guitar, you will thank be after you get use to it and are playing on expert. Solo buttons are a joke as well.
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post #3 of 39
I would vote rock band if we were voting on greates premise.

But the song track in Rock band is lamer than FDRs legs.
    
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post #4 of 39
I say Rockband for an all around better game. It offers more to the player rather than JUST guitar. One thing I have noticed is that the GH guitar seems a little more "solid" than the Rockband guitar, and The GH Les Paul is a lot easier to use for me. But then again, I'm a drummer.
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I like how in Rock Band the "power" can still be gained while "using" it. Not in GH3
    
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Rock Band kicks Guitar Hero in the thingy. GH3's soundtrack sucks compared to Rock Band's.
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I played both a little more, and came up with a few more reasons why I'm leaning towards Rock Band being better:

1. Solos and big finishes: Not that the RB guitar's "solo" buttons are worth using, but solos and big finishes are just fun ways to score extra points.

2. "Master tracks": I haven't actually counted them up, but it appears that Rock Band has a lot fewer rerecordings than GH3 does. Original artists > rerecordings.

3. Downloadable content: They have both been out for roughly the same amount of time, but Rock Band is kicking GH3's butt in having downloadable songs available. Not that I do a lot of that (only downloaded the Metallica pack so far...hard as hell, let me tell you!), but I know a lot of people do. If/when Rock Band starts offering complete albums for download, that's "game over" in this department as far as I'm concerned. That new "Guitar Hero: Aerosmith Edition" concept is a piece of crap in comparison.

4. Another issue with the GH guitar: I have to keep the thing basically horizontal to keep it from going into star power mode. But my natural position is to rest it at about a 25-30 degree incline; I hold a real guitar at this angle too (yes I have one from when I was a teenager, no I never really learned how to play it). At that angle, the game always kicks it into star power as soon as I have the energy stored. It's definitely the guitar, because the same thing happens in Rock Band...but the Rock Band guitar has no problems with my positioning, to kick it into overdrive I have to tilt it practically vertical. Some people may think that having to go vertical is a pain in the butt and prefer GH3's way, but definitely not me.

On the pro GH3 side, I think I am quickly adjusting to the guitar. The neck is a little shorter than the Rock Band guitar, which I don't really like; and I still don't think I like the fact that I can actually miss a fret button, but the buttons seem to depress easier; which makes sliding much easier, assuming I don't miss the buttons altogether.
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon View Post
I played both a little more, and came up with a few more reasons why I'm leaning towards Rock Band being better:

1. Solos and big finishes: Not that the RB guitar's "solo" buttons are worth using, but solos and big finishes are just fun ways to score extra points.

2. "Master tracks": I haven't actually counted them up, but it appears that Rock Band has a lot fewer rerecordings than GH3 does. Original artists > rerecordings.

3. Downloadable content: They have both been out for roughly the same amount of time, but Rock Band is kicking GH3's butt in having downloadable songs available. Not that I do a lot of that (only downloaded the Metallica pack so far...hard as hell, let me tell you!), but I know a lot of people do. If/when Rock Band starts offering complete albums for download, that's "game over" in this department as far as I'm concerned. That new "Guitar Hero: Aerosmith Edition" concept is a piece of crap in comparison.

4. Another issue with the GH guitar: I have to keep the thing basically horizontal to keep it from going into star power mode. But my natural position is to rest it at about a 25-30 degree incline; I hold a real guitar at this angle too (yes I have one from when I was a teenager, no I never really learned how to play it). At that angle, the game always kicks it into star power as soon as I have the energy stored. It's definitely the guitar, because the same thing happens in Rock Band...but the Rock Band guitar has no problems with my positioning, to kick it into overdrive I have to tilt it practically vertical. Some people may think that having to go vertical is a pain in the butt and prefer GH3's way, but definitely not me.

On the pro GH3 side, I think I am quickly adjusting to the guitar. The neck is a little shorter than the Rock Band guitar, which I don't really like; and I still don't think I like the fact that I can actually miss a fret button, but the buttons seem to depress easier; which makes sliding much easier, assuming I don't miss the buttons altogether.
If your guitar is going into star power mode at a slight angle you have a faulty les paul. Its a known issue.

Exactly why I use a xplorer still, 90% of les pauls have issues. My friend also has trashed his les paul and got a xplorer.
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If your guitar is going into star power mode at a slight angle you have a faulty les paul. Its a known issue.

Exactly why I use a xplorer still, 90% of les pauls have issues. My friend also has trashed his les paul and got a xplorer.
Hmm...do you think I should exchange the bundle where I bought it then? Or is Activision like Harmonix and wants you to contact them instead? (The Guitar Hero forums are about worthless, I can't find anything about this over there.)

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Not in the same league, I don't think.
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