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Run your PQ's at 2.1v if they aren't already. Mine have troubles at 1.8v.
Are you sure he has PQs and not BKs? I thought the PQs where CAS5 while the BKs are CAS 4?

If they are the BKs, they are promos ICs and run at 1.9v to 2.0v and dont OC very well.
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post #12 of 21
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Memory Dumps are a symptom of a dying CPU? That makes sense with AMD, due to the on-chip memory controller, but I don't get it for Intel... Oh, and the highest Voltage I ever got was 1.36V, and I read about the 1.3625V thing that day, and then backed off my OC.

Currently running 3.87GHz @ 1.32V and trying to get it stable. Ran some stress tests overnight and it had rebooted this morning. I may just leave it at 3.6GHz, just to keep my CPU a little longer, if it really is dying.

If it dies soon, I can still RMA it to Newegg, right?
The memory controller would not make any difference in this case with AMD. Its a memory controller and not actual memory. If you had a bad memory controller on an AMD CPU then your PC just would not run....it would not be intermittent mate.

Only Physical RAM can do that as you will only BSOD or memory dump if your PC tried to access a bad memory address.
post #13 of 21
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Are you sure he has PQs and not BKs? I thought the PQs where CAS5 while the BKs are CAS 4?

If they are the BKs, they are promos ICs and run at 1.9v to 2.0v and dont OC very well.
As far as I know, all 2x2GB kits from G.Skill are running PowerChip ICs, which also don't overclock all that well (compared to D9's). The BK's aren't on this list though, so I'm unsure.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...-ic-chips.html
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post #14 of 21
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As far as I know, all 2x2GB kits from G.Skill are running PowerChip ICs, which also don't overclock all that well (compared to D9's). The BK's aren't on this list though, so I'm unsure.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...-ic-chips.html
Wow! Talk about an oversight, I didnt even see they where 2x2Gb... I thought they where 2x1Gb .
You are 100% correct.

By the way, the G.Skill 2x2Gb DDR2 800 cas 4 modules use the same PowerChip ICs as the DDR2 1000 kit. SoI would have thought they would OC better then DDR2 900 CAS 6!


I contacted G.Skill with the following question:
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I am planning on purchasing a 2x2GB kit. Right now it is between:
F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK or F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
My deciding factor will be based on the ICs used on these modules. I know the F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ uses PowerChip ICs, but what about the F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK?
Here is their response:
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Hi,
Both of them are using same chip
Thank you
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post #15 of 21
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Wow! Talk about an oversight, I didnt even see they where 2x2Gb... I thought they where 2x1Gb .
You are 100% correct.

By the way, the G.Skill 2x2Gb DDR2 800 cas 4 modules use the same PowerChip ICs as the DDR2 1000 kit. SoI would have thought they would OC better then DDR2 900 CAS 6!


I contacted G.Skill with the following question:


Here is their response:
They must handpick them or something. My CAS 5 PQ kit does 950mhz 5-5-5-18, at 2.3v, which I'm afraid to run for more than a few minutes. Back when I had my Tracers, I put these in at the same time, for 6GB, and my motherboard changed the RAM speed to like 1030 (2.2v). They booted, but I got a RSOD when booting Crysis.

In short, 2x2GB is great, but they are no Ballstix for overclocking.
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These are the F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK G.Skill 2x2Gb modules that are cas 4 (which I think he has since he listed the default timings at 4-4-4-12). They are rated for 2.0v to 2.1v, so he might be undervolting them.
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As far as I know, the fdd cable is for graphics stability. I assume it suplements power through the PCIE slot.

I am in the same position. I didn't want to ruin my management by plugging it in, lol. I may try to make an extension and thread it under the mobo.
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For the record, my RAM's stock timings are 5-5-5-15, I just got them to DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 and 2.1V for my CPU at 3 GHz. I tried to run 430 FSB, and even at 6-6-6-16 and 2.2V, I still got a BSOD today... They run fine at or below 800 MHz, so I don't think they're dead, I think they just aren't good at OCing. I may buy some of those super cheap D9s over at Tankguys if he still has them, but 3.6 GHz is plenty for me, seeing as I was upgrading from an AMD at 2.8 and now I'm using a C2D at 3.6, the speed difference is good enough for me. The bragging rights sure would be nice, though...
    
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post #19 of 21
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For the record, my RAM's stock timings are 5-5-5-15, I just got them to DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 and 2.1V for my CPU at 3 GHz. I tried to run 430 FSB, and even at 6-6-6-16 and 2.2V, I still got a BSOD today... They run fine at or below 800 MHz, so I don't think they're dead, I think they just aren't good at OCing. I may buy some of those super cheap D9s over at Tankguys if he still has them, but 3.6 GHz is plenty for me, seeing as I was upgrading from an AMD at 2.8 and now I'm using a C2D at 3.6, the speed difference is good enough for me. The bragging rights sure would be nice, though...
You could always pick up the G.Skill 2x2Gb DDR2 1000 kit for $110. They will run 1:1 with a 500FSB!
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To clean up the floppy type moldex cable issue.
In the past, I've chopped off the floppy moldex from a junk PS and spliced it into a common 4 pin socket that came from one of those fan3/4 pin adapters to fashion a neat extension.
    
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