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The thing is i couldnt get the money all at once i would prefer to do a kind of new build just build it on top of my current system. I just want to know what you think would be best to upgrade first to get the most performance benifit now.
also is the 3600 x 2 overclockable
and does anayone know a good site for components here in the uk or american ones that will ship here

hmm but maybe i could build one form scratch
http://www.overclockers.co.uk
http://www.dabs.com
http://www.ebuyer.com

There a few of my favourites =]

Also, if your building on top of your current one, Id start with motherboard probly
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post #12 of 24
Your upgrade reminds me of a favorite childhood book "If you give a mouse a cookie..."

To play Crysis, you need a much better video card, such as the 8800GT. But once you buy the 8800GT, you can't use it because you'll need at least a 430W PSU and you have 250W. So you buy a quality 500W PSU to run the 8800GT. Now you realize your CPU is bottlenecking your 8800GT A LOT, and believe me it would. So now you're faced with replacing the CPU, only there aren't any better CPU's still for sale for socket 939. So now you need to upgrade the motherboard to socket AM2, which has a different memory standard (DDR2 vs DDR). So you need new memory too. And of course you want to overclock, so you need to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler. Now you've just replaced everything except the case, DVD drive and hard drive, and all of it was necessary to play Crysis.

Trust me, save up, start from scratch. 500-650 pounds will get you a great system. And unless you're really loyal to AMD, all the Intel fanboys are right when they say that Intel has the best bang for the buck right now, so I'd consider going Intel.
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post #13 of 24
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What do you think of this system i put togeter on overclockers i could probably scrape this much money. any idea how much my current system would go for on ebay.

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit
Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 250GB SATA-II 8MB Cache
Gigabyte GZ-X2 Black Midi Case
Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2 (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Asus ATI Radeon EAH3650/HTDI/256M HD 3650 256MB GDDR3
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5000+ 2.60GHz (Socket AM2
Gigabyte SUPERB 460w PSU
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Low Profile CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2)
2xAkasa AK-191-SM Smoke Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3 pin

all for £340
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post #14 of 24
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What do you think of this system i put togeter on overclockers i could probably scrape this much money. any idea how much my current system would go for on ebay.

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit
Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 250GB SATA-II 8MB Cache
Gigabyte GZ-X2 Black Midi Case
Asrock ALiveXFire-eSATA2 (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Asus ATI Radeon EAH3650/HTDI/256M HD 3650 256MB GDDR3
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5000+ 2.60GHz (Socket AM2
Gigabyte SUPERB 460w PSU
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Low Profile CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2)
2xAkasa AK-191-SM Smoke Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3 pin

all for £340

looks alright, although HardDrive - id go for Western Digital or Seagate.

and as for your current system, not very much £200? maybe less?

but if you are thinking of selling, will you need to buy Vista again?

Do You have the disc?
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post #15 of 24
If your going to do it piece by piece as you have the money, your biggest hassle is making sure everything you get is compatible with what you have at each step of the way and what you want to have at the end. If you have an older mobo now and intend to upgrade that later, this will likely limit you.

For instance, say you know at some point you will want to upgrade the mobo and cpu. But for now you want to just make a few other upgrades without the hassle of doing it all at once with a new mobo. So, for the short term improvement you buy more RAM and say a new video card. These have to be compatible with the mobo you have now--the question is will you still be able to use them in a new mobo down the road? If not you just wasted money.

I'd spend some time planning things out and making sure what you want to do will all work out in the end before you actually buy anything.

For what its worth, my old PC was 7 years old. Over the years I upgraded the video card (a few times), the RAM (a few times), the hard drive. The money I invested in upgrades just to squeeze the last drop of performance I could from it would have paid for half of the new parts of my total new build. So when I built the new PC, I planned it out carefully to reduce my future upgrading and this system should last me even longer than my last one just the way it is now.
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post #16 of 24
I agree, WD or SG HDD. I'd get a better video card, the 3650 isn't very good and will be outdated very soon. I'd recommend the 8800GT, the price is right. I don't know much about that motherboard, make sure you talk to someone with it and make sure it has enough overclocking options. Gigabyte is new to the PSU game, I don't know much about their quality yet. I'd look into the Corsair VX series or the Antec earthwatts, as they're both quality and affordable in the states.

Good pick on the RAM, CPU, and CPU cooler. And I assume the case and dvd drive are just fine.
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The ASRock aren't usually a strong OCer.
There are several good inexpensive solid OCable MBs though.
An AM2+ would give you the most future upgrade ability but likely cost more than an goods AM2 MB.
    
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What processor do you think in amd x2 range for best overclocking gains
and also sli or crossfire motherboard is it just a question between ati and nvidia or does one work better
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post #19 of 24
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Your upgrade reminds me of a favorite childhood book "If you give a mouse a cookie..."

To play Crysis, you need a much better video card, such as the 8800GT. But once you buy the 8800GT, you can't use it because you'll need at least a 430W PSU and you have 250W. So you buy a quality 500W PSU to run the 8800GT. Now you realize your CPU is bottlenecking your 8800GT A LOT, and believe me it would. So now you're faced with replacing the CPU, only there aren't any better CPU's still for sale for socket 939. So now you need to upgrade the motherboard to socket AM2, which has a different memory standard (DDR2 vs DDR). So you need new memory too. And of course you want to overclock, so you need to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler. Now you've just replaced everything except the case, DVD drive and hard drive, and all of it was necessary to play Crysis.

Trust me, save up, start from scratch. 500-650 pounds will get you a great system. And unless you're really loyal to AMD, all the Intel fanboys are right when they say that Intel has the best bang for the buck right now, so I'd consider going Intel.
i just check and my mobo is am2 and my ram is ddr2
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post #20 of 24
Ahh, well that's good news

Start by upgrading your memory, as DDR2 is cheap now but very soon they'll be focusing production on DDR3, meaning DDR2 supply will dwindle and prices will go up. You have two options with the memory:

1) Keep the old stuff and get another 2x512MB set of DDR2 667, giving you a total of 4 DIMMs (I assume your current 1GB is a 2x512MB set, plz correct me if I'm wrong).

2) Ditch the old memory and get a new 2x1GB set of DDR2 800.

Option 1 is cheaper but comes with a mess of limitations. First, the new set has to run at the same voltages as your current set, which means we need to know what you currently have. Second, both sets will run at the speed/timings of the slowest set. Third, you'll be using all 4 DIMMs, so a future upgrade in memory means ditching all 4 DIMMs and starting from scratch.

Option 2 costs slightly more ($12-20 more) but will give you better, faster memory without any of the above problems, so I vote option 2. (keep the old 1GB set, always good to have extra RAM lying around in case things break).

I recommend the following:
$40 - Crucial (after $25 MIR)
$39 - Team (after $20 MIR)
$31 - Patriot (after $42 MIR)

Crucial Ballistix should be the powerhouse of that group, but all overclock very well. Unfortunately some members here have been having issues with the newer version of the Ballistix dying in a matter of days. These members have turned to brands like Team and Patriot with few complaints, so that's something to consider. But if your Ballistix live for more than a week or two, you'll enjoy HUGE overclocks. And FYI, If your Crucial Ballistix do die in the first week or two, it's easy to RMA them to Crucial for a replacement.

After you upgrade memory, it's on to the PSU!
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