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Hey Guys!

New to the forums and I figured I would post this as a new thread as I'm in desperate need of some help.

ANYWAYS!

I've had my system for about 4 months now, just recently realized that I bought the wrong ram for it (bought pc26400, DS4 supports pc28500). So I recently scored a great deal at a local compUSA that was having an out of business sale ($75 for 2 gigs of corsair dominator xms2 pc2 8500!, plus i think theres a corsair mail-in rebate!). So I install the RAM and upgrade my bios to F11, everything works great. CPU-Z says that its running at 533mhz but if I'm not mistaken, which I might be cause I'm new to this, 533mhz on DDR2 ram would actuall be 1066 correct? So I think I'm good in that department. I set the timings to 5-5-5-15 manually (bios set them to 5-8-8-24 by default for some reason) and I can already feel the speed increase in my system.

On to the problem...

CPU-Z reports that my CPU is running at 2ghz! I'm running a 2.66 e6750! I've noticed that the problem is the multiplier. CPU-Z reports the multiplier as being 6x, but I have it set in the BIOS as 8x (default). Also, I ran that easytune 5 application that comes with the mobo and it also is reporting 2ghz (although it shows the multiplier at 8x). If I tweak the frequency by a pinch in easytune it instantly reports as 2.66, but when I click the GO button (which I assume applies the settings) it goes back to reporting as if it was on a 6x multiplier. I ended up updating that easytune app and now it doesnt work at all (it came across as a rather ****ty program to begin with, so I dont mind it being broken).

Soooo.....


Any ideas what could be causing this? Below are screenshots of CPU-Z's output and my specs. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!




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post #2 of 13
You have to disable SpeedStep, CPU TM and C1E in bios. These are power saving features, that when enabled, will lower your multi to x6 when the PC isnt working hard. Put a load on it and watch the multi jump to x8.
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post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by ericeod View Post
You have to disable SpeedStep and C1E in bios. These are power saving features, that when enabled, will lower your multi to x6 when the PC isnt working hard. Put a load on it and watch the multi jump to x8.
I see, thanks for the quick response!

Would you reccommend disabling this feature? This will only cause me to get inaccurate readouts on my overclock testing.
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I always keep it disabled
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post #5 of 13
You wrote "I set the timings to 5-5-5-15 manually (bios set them to 5-8-8-24 by default for some reason)"

The reason the BIOS sets the timings like that is so you don't get a failed POST.
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Quote:
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You wrote "I set the timings to 5-5-5-15 manually (bios set them to 5-8-8-24 by default for some reason)"

The reason the BIOS sets the timings like that is so you don't get a failed POST.
I totally overlooked that!

It might be that you are not giving them the specified 2.2v. The board will default to 1.8v to the ram.
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post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by ericeod View Post
I totally overlooked that!

It might be that you are not giving them the specified 2.2v. The board will default to 1.8v to the ram.

I believe you're right. I manually upped the ram voltage to 2.2v and the timing is still set on 5-5-5-15, seems to be stable so far.

On a side note

I've began the rest of my system overclocking. Right now I have my processor (e6750 2.66) set to 3.040 (380 8x) and the ram set around 950 I believe. I tried running it at 3.4 (400 8x), but the temperatures of the cores reached around 72C at full load after 10 minutes of Orthos. Currently, I'm running OCCT and the temps have been stable around 66 under load. I think my temp problem is related to the fact that I'm running the stock e6750 heatsink. Looking to get a new one, any suggestions? Also, what is a good temperature to shoot for under full load? Would 66 be pretty safe? I believe it was running at 62 with everything stock.

Anyways, I'm going to keep tweaking throughout the next few days. So far I'm content with my results thusfar...

3.040ghz CPU
5-5-5-15 at 950mhz (I'm going to try to get this closer to 1000, maybe push the FSB to 385)
Core temps between 65-67 on full load

I'll post my voltage adjustments later but I have to run!
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post #8 of 13
The TRUE (Themalright ultra 120 extreme) is one of the best heatsinks on the market right now...unfortunately it's sold out almost everywhere
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With a better cooler you should get at least 3.6 at 450 fsb without a problem
And yes ET5 is total garbage
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post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bones View Post
With a better cooler you should get at least 3.6 at 450 fsb without a problem
And yes ET5 is total garbage
That's awesome to know!


I upped my FSB to 390 at 8x and its running stable. I think this is as far as I'm going to push it with my current heatsink as the temps are pushing 70 at full load for extended periods of time.

Could someone give me a heads up of common temps at full load? Especially with my processor (e6750)
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