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Tell me or not if I should upgrade my mobo, please give me a honest opinion.

this is my motherboard

http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1966

as you know my 5000 be was giving high temperatures and I think it has to do with a outdated mobo, since my x2 3800 ran perfectly fine and gave great temps.

So tell me the highs and lows of this mobo? and if it's worth keeping, my rig is in my sig and I sold the 3800 x2 and bought a 5000 be.
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Tell me or not if I should upgrade my mobo, please give me a honest opinion.

this is my motherboard

http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1966

as you know my 5000 be was giving high temperatures and I think it has to do with a outdated mobo, since my x2 3800 ran perfectly fine and gave great temps.

So tell me the highs and lows of this mobo? and if it's worth keeping, my rig is in my sig and I sold the 3800 x2 and bought a 5000 be.
If you're concerned primarily about the temperature issues, it's got nothing to do with the motherboard itself. The BIOS reads the thermal diode inside the CPU, and on certain batches of the Brisbane AM2 chips (and some S939 Denmark/Toledo chips as well), it seems that the calibration of the sensor is off, therefore giving out higher than expected readings. There are numerous reports of Brisbanes doing this to assume that this is indeed the case.
    
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post #3 of 13
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So you think I should turn off the feature that shuts down the pc when it gets to a certain temperature? It runs at 60 on load and 48 idle, non overclocked.

When I try to overclock it automatically shuts off the computer due to temperature readings.
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That's one way to go about things, but my first suggestion right now is to make sure that the HSF is mounted properly. Sometimes bad temperatures are a result of doing a sloppy job of mounting the cooler; if the temps are still bad after the remount, then I'd see if different programs are reading the thermal diode all the same. I'd try using a variety of software and checking the BIOS's own temp readings in order to see if it's a sensor miscalibration issue.

Once you're assured that it's likely that the sensor is calibrated poorly/improperly, I'd feel safer about turning off the temp warnings in the BIOS.
    
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post #5 of 13
Well if you want to overclock, you're gonna need better cooling than stock coolers.
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post #6 of 13
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I have the coolermaster hyper tx for a cooler.

I ran coretemp and it reads below 20 but all other programs are upper 40's.

thanks for the suggestions.
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post #7 of 13
You have a 'sub-par' air cooler for a 90W cpu. That is one issue. Another could be case ventilation...what is the temp in your case..not out. Keep in mind, raising air temps by 1c = 2c increase in cpu temps [roughly]..keeping the inside of your case as close to the ambient room temp will do a lot of good.

*For a 90W cpu.. you need to look more towards something that will cool a Quad-core..
post #8 of 13
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I have a BE 5000 now, the old cpu (90 watt 3800x2) actually ran alot cooler. That was my concern with the brisbane cpu's.

My cooler is fine since I'm in no shape a power pc user.
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post #9 of 13
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I also bought a couple fans and filters for my pc so when they come my temps should go down quite a bit.
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post #10 of 13
Heres why..

3800 X2 specs- Effective data bandwidth: 14.4 GB/sec [8GB/sec x 1 HyperTransport link + 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth]

BE 5000 specs- Effective data bandwidth: 18.7 GB/sec [8GB/sec x 1 HyperTransport link + ?.??/sec memory bandwidth]

Both CPU's have the same amount of cache..and HT speed..yet the BE has a higher bandwidth/sec. The cache must be of a lower latency..as well as the integrated mem controller.
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