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post #21 of 33
Those are nice fans...I don't know anything about that store though I've never ordered from them....I'm just to cheap to spend more then $15 bux on a fan...Besides I like my Pana and Sunon...If I ever do try another fan it would be those......Well maybe the 3 blade Delta, they pull some massive inches of H2O, but they just have a whine that I don't like much...
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Yah. I am weary about the store thing too.

But those are nice fans, and I like to get hold of it. THough reallye xpensive. So i'm like you.
    
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Hey I'm glad you linked me to that I learned something today...

I had never used any of the 3.2W 108 Sunon from Petra's on a rad....These are what I use on my rads...KD121PMB1-86..Sunon 120mm Ball Bearing Fan w/ 4pin 108CFM ..I cant get a shot of them because they are on my rad and its stuffed in the back of my second shelf on my bench and it woulsdbe a major hassle to dig it out...

But long story short I've been wanting to add a Chevette core to my res cooling loop, so I stuck one of those KDE1212PMB 3.2W fans on it and tried my choke the fan pressure testing......You can actually pretty well gauge a fans pressure against another fan like that...But it does feel like its not pulling like the other Sunon by a good amount..Noise it sounds about the same, nice low hum....





Now thats a kick I tell you, I would of thought they were the same but the lower wattage rating was just a power draw improvement...My old Sunon I'd had a good while and SVC never has them in stock anymore....they have the same Dba rating at 42 and the same revs at 3100 and the same 108cfm...I honestly thought there was no difference in them other then wattage rating...So I learned something today that I had been taking for granted...Thanks......But still to get max effect with higher cfm and pressure fans thicker high fin per inch rads are what they shine on...
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post #24 of 33
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No problem. Glad you learned something.

I still have a long way to go though.

The picture looks very nice. Is that the radiator next to the fan?

Is it safe using watercooling? Because I build this computer, I need it to last 10 years or more. I'm not like the type of person who changes parts every time something new comes out. You can tell with my dell. I only added a sound card and thats it.
    
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Yeah thats a heater-core out of a 1986 Chevy Chevette...I run a TEC on my water cooling loop and I have a 5 gallon sealed bucket res with a 240 rad in it that runs outside to another pump and that core and another rad, it really helps my temp's but on a water cooling only loop it would be pointless..I use a 480 rad to cool my chip with....

WC'ing is pretty safe..The main thing is to take your time setting it all up and then leak test, leak test and when your sick of leak testing do it again...But its not for everyone, if it really makes you nervous you might want to just get a good HSF and put on it......The only reason I WC is to try and get max OC's...If I could cool it well enough with a HSF I would do it in a heart beat and use all the $$$ I blow on this on something else...To a lot of us this is a hobby to, its inexpensive and we can sit around the house and play with it........If your interested in WC'ing take your time and learn as much about it as you can before you start spending your $$$ on it...
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post #26 of 33
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Looks very nice. Though, I would never make my own.
Watercooling itself is confusing and hard.

Yes, I am taking my time right now.

Because with watercooling, I can go with higher overclocks. That's what I am looking for. If not for watercooling, I will get the Thermalright heatsinks for everything. I have researched about them, and they seem to be pretty good. But of course, spending on watercooling will cost more. Right now, whatever is on my other system, the project one, that is how I want to get it. I've been looking into the HR-05 for the northbridge. Watercooling, seems so much easier though. I wouldn't mind if I check the leaking for around 24 hours, but it only has to be that time only, and I will not need to check it for a long time. I might take a look at it when cleaning the computer though getting the dust away.

Which way do you suggest? I think even with the TRUE, I can get pretty high clocks though.

I want the least costly one though. Watercooling does not need to be fancy, since I will have a closed case. I do not like led that much. I need to also get the HR-03 for the GTX. If not for watercooling. I want something that can make overclocking well, no trouble, price I guess should not be a factor, since I am being so picky.
    
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post #27 of 33
Hey I love WC'ing its a lot of fun and its pretty easy to do after a time or to..I've never had a leak, I knock on wood every time i say that to, the little slow weepy leaks that you don't notice for awhile are the one that can get you....But I use a little 4" UV cold cathode light, I have a little UV additive in my loop, and i use the UV light to check for any little leaks every now and then...Even a tiny drop of water will shine under it...


I don't know about the True I've heard that they are running so cool that the OC is topping out before the chip get really hot enough to use WC'ing on, now thats just hear say I don't keep up with Intel, some of the Intel guys could help you a lot more then I can about that...

If you for sure decide to go ahead and WC it we can help you set up a real nice rig that wont be to expensive..

Look through all the stickies here and I'll leave you my cleaning and set up PDF it has some basic stuff in it...

You can go here and enter in your voltages for stock and OC and we will have a pretty good idea of how much wattage you will need to dissipate in your loop..Overclocked CPU Wattage Calculator.But over kill is always best for a OC'ing rig...
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post #28 of 33
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^ Thanks for that.

So confusing. I guess I should "actually" have the rig before thinking about anything else? But I would really like to have everything at one point, so I thought thinking before the time would be good.
    
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post #29 of 33
Hey thats good that you are asking questions now, thats the way I do it to, I'll find out as much as I can for a part or chip or whatever for 3 or 4 months before i buy it...Thats half the fun......If I were in your place i would start a thread in the Intel CPU or air cooling forum and ask some of the guys using that chip if the heat is holding them back from higher overclocks and if lower temp's will get them better clocks...Get a bunch of opinions on it and just go from there...

This is fun and I love it and will keep doing it even if I don't need to but why spend $$$ if you don't have to?
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post #30 of 33
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I'm just afraid of being annoying to people, asking so much questions.
I'm recompiling my list of parts again, and I guess I will post it up later so they can evaluate my build, and then I would ask what to change and what type of cooling is suggested or something like that.
    
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