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Yeah, I've always used ATI's until this 8800GTS and I'll be going back to ATI with my next card. nVidia can't make a chipset to save their life and for the last couple years their driver releases have been rough. At least everyone knows the first ATI driver will suck, wait two weeks and you get a good driver lol
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in all fairness, i wouldnt use my p5n32e-sli to smack around a mutant pack of teletubbies, it is quite possibly the most wretched board to walk the face of the earth... ever.

and i've owned boards with SiS and VIA chipsets
(we're talking MIRAGE integrated gfx here)

sorry about your luck though, hope you will give nV another go some time!
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Originally Posted by Penicilyn View Post
Yeah, I've always used ATI's until this 8800GTS and I'll be going back to ATI with my next card. nVidia can't make a chipset to save their life and for the last couple years their driver releases have been rough. At least everyone knows the first ATI driver will suck, wait two weeks and you get a good driver lol
You know that's funny you'd mention that. I've used ATi cards in the past (one friend even called me an ATi fanboy) but I never had one that was fresh off its release. Never any problems and no new drivers were published for it for the whole time I was using it. In retrospect, my GTXs have been out for, correct me if I'm wrong, a year-and-a-half or so? Still the drivers keeping coming for this and for that.

I do a fair amount of side work building and maintaining what usually ends up to be gaming rigs so when I move on from a piece of hardware, there's usually a home already lined up for it. With that in mine, the 3870x2 is looking oh so sweet to me right now.

Why when I have the almighty 8800GTX? There were driver issues with the x2 when it was released and ATi has already hit most of the problems in the face with updates in not a lot of time. Combing the different forums for info, I've found that there's really only one issue remaining: Supreme Commander. The point is ATi isn't messing around and they're starting to release quality high-end products once again. A common counter to the GTX vs X2 debate is that it took ATi so long to release a card that was only slightly better in some cases. My answer: maybe Nvidia should've taken a little longer as well.
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in all fairness, i wouldnt use my p5n32e-sli to smack around a mutant pack of teletubbies, it is quite possibly the most wretched board to walk the face of the earth... ever.

and i've owned boards with SiS and VIA chipsets
(we're talking MIRAGE integrated gfx here)

sorry about your luck though, hope you will give nV another go some time!
I bought the 780i from Microcenter and they have a strict policy against returning or exchanging a motherboard for anything but the exact same model. Here's the conversation I had with the manager:

ME: I understand you're policy with motherboard returns but I haven't been having the best of luck with these Nvidias. If you would be willing to let me try something different, I'd be willing to buy a more expensive product (i.e. Maximus Formula) in return.

MNGR: Oh no this is a really great board! Really nice!

ME: Well at least not this one.

MNGR: I have so many of these in stock I can't justify letting you exchange for another model.

ME: Nothing you can do?

MNGR: No sorry. I just can't believe you've had any trouble with this one. It must just be a dud or something. We've been doing really well with them so far. I'm sure if you tried another one you'd like it too.

ME: I've told myself that one before. It's alright; I understand you're policy and your position however I am still going to buy an alternate out of pocket and sell this one to the highest bidder.

No Formulas left (which sucked because I used this mobo in a build and ended up getting jealous of it) so I grabbed the IP35 Pro. Kid in that section told me that Abit was getting bought out and this was their last ditch effort. Really not a very good board especially when side-by-side with the (and I think the clouds outside parted) 780i. I said cool and went back to that manager for the exchange.

ME: Here we go. You know I should be honest with you. Most of the problems I've been having were with the 680i boards actually.

MNGR: Oh I believe that! Don't even get me started with those. Terrible boards! They've been a nightmare for us with exchanges.

ME: That's ironic since much of the 780i is a 680i in diguise.

MNGR: Oh no no! The new board is completely different. Totally new motherboard.

ME: Not to be a know it all but it shares the same northbridge, southbridge, and much of the same architecture as the 680i so wouldn't it almost have to be closely related?

MNGR: Oh not at all! Like I said, totally different board.

ME: I didn't know that. Thanks for all your help!
post #15 of 23
I know exactly what you are saying! I went through 4 eVGA 680i A1 boards and I never abused them. In fact, I was running 3.24GHz with 1.22v vcore, 2.0v to the ram, and 1.3v to the SPP, and it still went down! I was getting so frustrated because wuith each board, I would replace the factory TIM with beeter TIM. I even WCed the NB and mounted an HR-05-SLI on the SB, so temps where never an issue either. I ended up tradeing it while offering to honor any RMA. Well guess what, it had to be RMAed.

But now that it is gone, I kind of miss it! I guess you can say OCing on the NVIDIA 680i is an adventure...
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I know exactly what you are saying! I went through 4 eVGA 680i A1 boards and I never abused them. In fact, I was running 3.24GHz with 1.22v vcore, 2.0v to the ram, and 1.3v to the SPP, and it still went down! I was getting so frustrated because wuith each board, I would replace the factory TIM with beeter TIM. I even WCed the NB and mounted an HR-05-SLI on the SB, so temps where never an issue either. I ended up tradeing it while offering to honor any RMA. Well guess what, it had to be RMAed.

But now that it is gone, I kind of miss it! I guess you can say OCing on the NVIDIA 680i is an adventure...
That is certainly true! You honestly miss it? Talk about a trooper!
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That is certainly true! You honestly miss it? Talk about a trooper!
Well ever since I got the ASUS P5E with X38 chipset, I havent had a single reboot, error, or instability of any kind. I havent even had to do a reload in quite a while. I actually get bored with it...
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That's awesome though! I am just finishing up this Abit build of mine and overclocking went like this:

FSB: -> 355
CPU vCore: -> 1.365

Done!

I am honestly nerve wracked because in my experience, it's not supposed to be this easy. Is it?
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I bought the 780i from Microcenter and they have a strict policy against returning or exchanging a motherboard for anything but the exact same model. Here's the conversation I had with the manager:

ME: I understand you're policy with motherboard returns but I haven't been having the best of luck with these Nvidias. If you would be willing to let me try something different, I'd be willing to buy a more expensive product (i.e. Maximus Formula) in return.

MNGR: Oh no this is a really great board! Really nice!

ME: Well at least not this one.

MNGR: I have so many of these in stock I can't justify letting you exchange for another model.

ME: Nothing you can do?

MNGR: No sorry. I just can't believe you've had any trouble with this one. It must just be a dud or something. We've been doing really well with them so far. I'm sure if you tried another one you'd like it too.

ME: I've told myself that one before. It's alright; I understand you're policy and your position however I am still going to buy an alternate out of pocket and sell this one to the highest bidder.

No Formulas left (which sucked because I used this mobo in a build and ended up getting jealous of it) so I grabbed the IP35 Pro. Kid in that section told me that Abit was getting bought out and this was their last ditch effort. Really not a very good board especially when side-by-side with the (and I think the clouds outside parted) 780i. I said cool and went back to that manager for the exchange.

ME: Here we go. You know I should be honest with you. Most of the problems I've been having were with the 680i boards actually.

MNGR: Oh I believe that! Don't even get me started with those. Terrible boards! They've been a nightmare for us with exchanges.

ME: That's ironic since much of the 780i is a 680i in diguise.

MNGR: Oh no no! The new board is completely different. Totally new motherboard.

ME: Not to be a know it all but it shares the same northbridge, southbridge, and much of the same architecture as the 680i so wouldn't it almost have to be closely related?

MNGR: Oh not at all! Like I said, totally different board.

ME: I didn't know that. Thanks for all your help!
As a former Micro Center Employee (I left in the beginning of February) I can tell you that there is no policy that i'd ever been informed of regarding motherboard excahnges. The only item that had to be exchanged due to defect are the processors... Back when the Asus P5K's came out, i'd say 85% of them came back, there were a ton of exchanges, and our clearance table was always chock full of motherboards... Which Micro Center are you going to? I've never heard of this policy... It sounds like you returned it within 30 days?

P.S: Congrats with the new Abit!
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Sadly I've heard this story many times.....Nvidia chipsets are total crap from what I hear. I never had problems with my NForce chipsets, but apparently the 680/780i chipsets like to die
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