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Tricky was running 24/7 at a 1.45 vcore. That's what killed his chip.
BUT DID HE LET ORTHOS/PRIME FIRST RUN FOR 24+ HOURS TO TEST STABILITY? I'm getting a E8500 in soon and plan on running it as well 24/7 (probably at a lower vcore and fsb as he did) but I'm testing my OC for 48hours.
Just to be on the safe side..
    
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Hey Yannis, have you tried bumping the vcore down from 1.37 and testing again?
I thought I needed more vcore than I did.
OK here are a few things that have changed....hopefully towards serving a better end!
Today i thought of changing the BIOS on my ASUS Blitz Formula SE, so i upgraded from 1302 to 1402. My remarks.
1) Reason i changed it was because i could not get my memory modules stable while overclocked at 1066 (Axeram on an N spec is supposed to do easy o/c to 1066 from 800)! So once i changed it it seems to work!
2) My VID changed from 1,050 to 1.1125 after the BIOS update (with the multiplier set at 9.5 at all times - i have all power saving stuff that drops it disabled)!!!!! However, it seems that i need less voltage for the CPU to run stable now. Yesterday, i managed to finally get stable @ 1.408 (CPU-Z) on 441x9.5 FSB and now i need less than that for 444x9.5 (still testing).
I guess the updated BIOS is working miracles that i could not otherwise work. I will keep you updated!
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post #23 of 41
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OK here are a few things that have changed....hopefully towards serving a better end!
Today i thought of changing the BIOS on my ASUS Blitz Formula SE, so i upgraded from 1302 to 1402. My remarks.
1) Reason i changed it was because i could not get my memory modules stable while overclocked at 1066 (Axeram on an N spec is supposed to do easy o/c to 1066 from 800)! So once i changed it it seems to work!
2) My VID changed from 1,050 to 1.1125 (with the multiplier set at 9.5 at all times - i have all stuff that drops it disabled)!!!!! However, it seems that i need less voltage for the CPU to run stable now. Yesterday, i managed to get stable @ 1.40 on 441x9.5 FSB and now i need less than that for 444x9.5 (still testing).
I guess the updated BIOS is working miracles that i could not otherwise work. I will keep you updated!
Don't you just love bios updates?! You got some nice results so far out of the 1402!!!
    
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Good job yannis ! Nice chip .
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I think what we 45nm CPU owners should realise is this:
For the first time (i think), Intel has made a chip that can go up to its limits without any temperature-overheating issues when that limit has been reached and while on conventional means of CPU-cooling. The problem is that some people (including myself), upon realisation that the chip can sustain even higher temperatures when the voltage limits have been reached, they go forward for the highest speed possible that is safe from a temperature-heat generation perspective....while not giving a damn about the voltage limits.
So before i bugger my chip i am going to stay on a safe 4.1 Ghz that will keep my chip going for months to come.
I am currently testing it and i think it will be stable at around 1.35v in CPU-Z which i am happy with.
Soon enough i will post the results.
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post #26 of 41
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BUT DID HE LET ORTHOS/PRIME FIRST RUN FOR 24+ HOURS TO TEST STABILITY? I'm getting a E8500 in soon and plan on running it as well 24/7 (probably at a lower vcore and fsb as he did) but I'm testing my OC for 48hours.
Just to be on the safe side..
You really don't see to be understanding this point...

The chip may well be stable with those voltages at those speeds.

However, the voltage used was too high and so caused the degradation of the paths inside the CPU over a period of time. This wouldn't show up in a stress test, but over time - and in Tricky's case a very short period of time - the CPU will eventually die.
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OFF TOPIC: Prosser where in Wales are you from man? I lived in Aberystwyth for 8 years!
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post #28 of 41
where the hell can i get an 8500??
    
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post #29 of 41
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You really don't see to be understanding this point...

The chip may well be stable with those voltages at those speeds.

However, the voltage used was too high and so caused the degradation of the paths inside the CPU over a period of time. This wouldn't show up in a stress test, but over time - and in Tricky's case a very short period of time - the CPU will eventually die.
No, I DO understand the problem Tricky had, but was under the assumption that a stresstest of min. 48hours straight would show that the OC was unstable (or stable), because before 48hours would pass, one would recieve errors.
Even if a system runs 24/7 it's not fully stressed for the full 24/7. Thus, a test of min. 48 hours is as equivelent to 200+hours of normal usage, which should either: degrade the processor or pass the "test" with flying colors, right? Or am I seeing THIS wrong ?

I'm not a know-it-all, nor do I want to come over as one but I was pretty sure that last assumption of mine was correct. And i'm not out to find out how many volts the E8500 can take before it eventually breaks.. if that wasn't clear to anyone
    
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Actually Spacelover is one of the first who tried to put me off going to higher than 1.36 voltages
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