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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Haven't been a PC enthusiast for long? There's alllllllllllllways marketing hype and disappointments every single quarter....
exactly, not to mention ppl griping as soon as a card/game comes out and they expect FULL compliance with every single thing they have.
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I've seen people getting around 4.2+ Ghz on air with the e8400/8500's, I think that is pretty decent. Intel even stated that this was mostly just a small nm process with some new/optimized instructions. If you want to see the supposed "big change", that will be with the Nahelem chips, which is a whole new architecture. What did we really expect from the 9800's anyway? 200fps instead of 100fps on most games? Should it cook our breakfast?

This is exact reason I decided not to even wait for 9 series and go with two 8800's, because I know that some 8800's will do fine for another few years.
very well said and I agree 100%. Core2Duo & 8800 FTW for the foreseeable future. Maybe when Nehalem is ready we will have some new technology in the GPU dept. There are always plateau's in tech development, it seems nvidia is either not bringing something new out due to low competition and to get the most out of what they have out now, or they are still working on getting to the next level. My opinion is the latter.
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post #13 of 34
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Well, as of late, a whole bunch of "exciting" new hardware entries have been duds from what I've seen...

ATi

2900 series were decent, but couldn't compare at all to 8800GTX's, unless you "play" 3dmark. Their 3870 line is showing some improvement though, the 3870x2 seems like a desperation attemp to get nVidia speeds.

AMD

Not doing well with their x2. C2D is almost always a better option. Really stinks. Then they promised Phenom. Well, Phenom wasn't so phenomenal, OC problem, virtualization issues...

Intel

Wolfdale and Yorkfield chips were supposed to be BEASTS of OCers. Due to the die shrink, we though we could get AWESOME OCs. And we have gotten decent overclocks, but the voltage issue really is annoying

nVidia

9800GTX is a huge dissapointment. We expected this card to be a Godsend...it's a revised 8800GTS (G92). COME ON!!!

I know the thread is a biiit bare. Doesn't elaborate on much, but I'm sure you guys know the story...
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It is a typical cycle in tech world. Sometime it is due to the fact that they may encounter technology difficulty and have to delay the production or release but sometime they do it in purpose based on business decision. For instance, competitors always want to be ahead of game but there is a period that they would like to stay at peace to get the most of current technology in order to keep the R&D and others cost down or buy time to do next new development etc. Until they figure out the market is ready or whoever makes next step, a new cycle starts.
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Cheer up! While consumers like us a OCN might not find value in AMD chips, they have finally got a marketable product for the masses. It is all about total market share, not market share of the overclocking community. Read the reviews on Newegg. Most of the people have no idea how to overclock or ever want to think about overclocking.

Intel has monster chips right now but on Wallstreet they have lots of lawsuits and outside distractions that investors really don't like to see. While, at the end of the day it does not kill Intel (mostly because they have an amazing product atm), it does sway tech investors toward. This is vital to AMD because THEY NEED MONEY to recover lost time.

They have good GPU's and hopefully the tri core and new phenoms will show good sales over the next year. I'm confident that AMD will bounce back. It was not long ago that $1000 AMD FX chips dominated the overheating Intel P4's. Those people over at AMD still have some "rabbit's" under their sleeves.

I agree withe evrything you said, but I just have to point out one thing: It's not all about market share. Market share is the result of good corporate strategy. Notice how ATI has begun releasing lower-end cards at great prices that do not compete with the 8800gtx. ATI has chosen to focus on offering low-cost/moderate performance cards. Nvidia has feeblishly tried to do the same but ALSO pump out some crazy high-end grafix cards. You see that Nvidia is hurting because it's spreading itself too thin. ATI is sticking to it's core strategy and it's paying off and their market share growth is the result of that. NVIDIA is not sticking to a single strategy and it's hurting their market share. Perhaps it was too big to begin with
 
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You're a glass half empty kinda guy, aren't you?
Yes, I'm a pessimist.
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I got sick of the old 9 month production cycles on things like GPUs a long time ago. Speeds would more than double every year, and there would be a rush to take advantage of all these new features. This lead to tons of crappy games that needed an absurdly speced system to run correctly, which were rushed out to take what could be had before the next "revolution".

Personally, I'm glad things have slowed down a bit. One video card revolution per 18-24 months is about all I care for. Costs me a lot less money, and forces game producers to put out games that will run on reasonable hardware.

The G80 was due when it came out and I was pleased. However, It's not time for the G100 yet. I don't play Crysis, nor would I have the urge to sink 500 dollars into a card just to max it out even if I did.
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Wow at this 9800gtx stuff.

Just wait till it is released and test 2 of them in SLi i can guarantee it will beat the 8800gts 512 mb G92.
Will you guarantee me the 9800gtx will win in 1 v 1 matchup... What prize do I get if they tie.
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On an optimistic tone, I think the 9800GX2 won't be as bad as a lot of people think. Unlike when the 7950GX2 came out, SLI is now more mature and more games now take advantage of such cards. Look at the Tomshardware GPU charts and notice how in many cases the 7950GX2 is still among the top cards often keeping pace with the G80 8800GTS 320mb/640mb.
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You're a glass half empty kinda guy, aren't you?
I personally am the glass is 50% too large and shake my head at the inefficiency type of guy.
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