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These laptops are a ripoff, the price is ridiculous. They are nice feature wise, but I don't know who would pay a 75% premium for those.
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Aww, mine's getting outdated more and more with every update

I'd like a multi-touch touchpad

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They would get a lot of business if they offered a small discount to college students. I remember them offering a free Nano with any Macbook/pro but I think a monetary discount would be a little more helpful.

What Core 2 Duos are these, could someone link a newegg page to us?
They have $100-200 discounts depending on which product. MBs and MBPs (and the MBA, too, I think) get a $100 discount. And if you are a college student and get a Mac after school ends (during the summer), then you can get an iPod Nano (any model) with a $200 rebate. So you can get a $150 Nano and get a $200 rebate. Or you can get an iPod Video and get a $200 rebate, bringing it to $50 before tax if you'd like that instead.

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These laptops are a ripoff, the price is ridiculous. They are nice feature wise, but I don't know who would pay a 75% premium for those.
Don't state your opinion as fact. That's called an overstatement.

For some people, like myself, the software and the reliability is worth the extra cost (which I doubt is 75% higher, unless you're talking about a crappy compaq that uses ECS.)
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I just got my macbook 3 weeks ago,i'm disapointed they already have penryn. Its funny how its a cpu upgrade but my current macbook has a greater cache than these ones.
    
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These laptops are a ripoff, the price is ridiculous. They are nice feature wise, but I don't know who would pay a 75% premium for those.


Without getting into a battle here, you won't find a Penryn 15inch notebook w/1680x1050 res, 2GB ram, 250GB HD, Superdrive, 2.4GHz Penryn, 8600M w/ 512 MB of ram, etc.. for under $1800 anywhere. Check newegg.

With an education discount, the Apple is $1800. Plus you get OSX and touchpad.

No one said the Apple is cheap, because it's not. It is, however, a good value for what you get.
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Also, I just built a comparable Dell XPS M1505 notebook (2.4 Penryn, DVDRW, 2GB,250GB,1680x1050,8600M) and it was $1864 after discount. It also only had 256MB video ram.

The Apples, at MOST, are slighly overpriced. AT MOST.

in reality, they are just average retail prices for the hardware you get.
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No one said the Apple is cheap, because it's not. It is, however, a good value for what you get.
Again, that depends on you whether or not the software is a good value. It isn't the same for everyone as paulito would have you believe.

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The Apples, at MOST, are slighly overpriced. AT MOST.
For some of their things are more "overpriced" than others. But I do think the "overpricedness" is greatly exaggerated by most people.
post #17 of 83
These look really great. If I wasn't going minimalist with my college laptop (probably an EEE PC) I would look into getting a Mac.

I consider my past self as a pretty big "Macs are too expensive" guy, but currently the value is about the same as any other computer. The only (indirect) financial con when it comes to Macs is that it's not as easy to upgrade things like RAM and the HDD apparently, but that's pretty minor. The reason why this is financial is because upgrading RAM by buying it separately is cheaper than having the upgrade done by Apple.

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<3 my macbook. With the addition of Spaces, Leopard has replaced my need for linux (productivity-wise). I kinda feel bad for windows users who have never had multiple workspaces
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

Windows Virtual Desktop Manager PowerToy. It's been out for a very, very long time. Virtual desktops are even older. A lot older. Since Unix. I don't need it, I don't use it, Windows doesn't force me to use it, I have more resources available compared to a Mac running Spaces.
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I consider my past self as a pretty big "Macs are too expensive" guy, but currently the value is about the same as any other computer. The only (indirect) financial con when it comes to Macs is that it's not as easy to upgrade things like RAM and the HDD apparently, but that's pretty minor. The reason why this is financial is because upgrading RAM by buying it separately is cheaper than having the upgrade done by Apple.
It's actually very easy to upgrade the RAM and HDD in a Mac. You use a coin to unlock the battery, use a small screwdriver to remove the RAM cover, pull the lever, take out the old RAM, snap in the new one, and you're done.

A 2GB stick will cost you about $40 (I got mine for $100 several months ago )

To do the HDD, follow the same steps to take out the RAM cover, pull the HDD tab up, pull out the HDD via the tab, put the new one in, and you're done

I actually like the stock Mac HDD, though, because it's 100% inaudible (it's a Fujitsu). There is no hum, there is no clicking.
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Don't state your opinion as fact. That's called an overstatement.

For some people, like myself, the software and the reliability is worth the extra cost (which I doubt is 75% higher, unless you're talking about a crappy compaq that uses ECS.)
I agree opinion as fact is a bad thing to do.

I would love to have the super reliable OSX partitioning system that corrupts files once a month. My friend has a Mac Book Pro and his file system has had the corruption issue 2 times in a little over 2 months!

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Without getting into a battle here, you won't find a Penryn 15inch notebook w/1680x1050 res, 2GB ram, 250GB HD, Superdrive, 2.4GHz Penryn, 8600M w/ 512 MB of ram, etc.. for under $1800 anywhere. Check newegg.

With an education discount, the Apple is $1800. Plus you get OSX and touchpad.

No one said the Apple is cheap, because it's not. It is, however, a good value for what you get.

Lenovo T61p:

Core 2 Duo T8300 (2.4Ghz 45nm)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050)
Nvidia Quadro FX570M (Workstation version of 8600GT)
2GB DDR2-667
250GB 5400RPM SATA HDD
DVD-RW
Intel Wifi 4965AGN

$1278.94

You pay a 96% premium for the Mac Book Pro in this case. The T61p has a better keyboard as well.
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I agree opinion as fact is a bad thing to do.

I would love to have the super reliable OSX partitioning system that corrupts files once a month. My friend has a Mac Book Pro and his file system has had the corruption issue 2 times in a little over 2 months!




Lenovo T61p:

Core 2 Duo T8300 (2.4Ghz 45nm)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050)
Nvidia Quadro FX570M (Workstation version of 8600GT)
2GB DDR2-667
250GB 5400RPM SATA HDD
DVD-RW
Intel Wifi 4965AGN

$1278.94

You pay a 96% premium for the Mac Book Pro in this case. The T61p has a better keyboard as well.
First off, where is the source of this cost?

Second off, the Macbook is $2000 with similar specs, not $2,500 are your 96% price premium suggestion.

Also, with a student discount, the macbook is $1,800.

EDIT Also, WSXGA is 1440x900, NOT 1680x1050. 1680 is called WUXGA - and is usually at least another $100 over WSXGA.
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