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Hey, nice to meet you all. My budget is flexible but here’s the catch - the upgrade better be worth the $$. I’m not looking to drop as much money as possible just to make an extra 5% - I’m not a benchmarker, I’m a gamer and a multitasker. I’ve tweeked with this for about a year and I’m finally getting close to buying and I wanted to know your opinions. The router in the list is because I need an upgrade...

Also - I run a server, so I only need a HD big enough for local system and application storage. Any files, like photos, music, and databases, will be stored on the server. I plan to run Vista 64bit to use 8 gigs... Yes, 8. 2gig per core. I want some VMs and the ability to fully dedicate memory to several memory hungry programs at once (think 3gigs ea. at times).

Finally, I want to clock the q6600 to around 3.4ghz. I want a nice, stable speed on air that I can use regularly. No need to push it as far as it will go but I also want to make sure the memory timings, FSB, processor & mem speed are in balance to get the best performance. Just running a stupid high FSB only gets you so far. I also considered the ASUS X38 mobo, but PCI-X 2.0 just isn’t worth the extra $100 - so unless it has other tangible benefits...

Antec 900 (cool, cool looking, and decent $)

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail

Scythe SY124010L Fan (For NB Chipset cooling)

EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92)

CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 520W Power Supply

2x G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA

D-Link DIR-655 IEEE 802.11n (draft) Xtreme N
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Q6600 SLACR MSI P7N Platnium 750i MSI 8800 GTS 512MB 8GB G.SKILL 4-4-4-12 DDR2 800 
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Looks good but I'm not sure if that Artic cooler is going to be powerful enough to take you to 3.4G. I can't speak from experience but I know newegg has the Tuniq tower on sale for like $40 and it might be worth a look if you are going with a quad.
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post #3 of 12
The Arctic cooler has to go. Tuniq Tower ($40) or if you feel like a lapping project get the Thermalright Ultra Extreme (True) which will set you back $100.

Arctic Cooler: Good for 3.2Ghz
Tuniq Tower: Good for 3.4Ghz
Lapped TRUE: Good for 3.6Ghz

This is keeping temps below 60C at load OC'ed.
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You may want a slightly beefier PSU- I'd say 650W. I'd also spring for smaller multiple HDDs and create RAID 0 arrays.

Q6600 sweet spot seems to be 3.6GHz on air (9x400 or 450x8)- with the Zalman I am getting 57C load with the fan on low and 45C on high (9x400@1.4V). Even pushing 1.5V I barely hit 60C.... a full 10C below thermal spec for a G0.
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post #5 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravin View Post
You may want a slightly beefier PSU- I'd say 650W. I'd also spring for smaller multiple HDDs and create RAID 0 arrays.

Q6600 sweet spot seems to be 3.6GHz on air (9x400 or 450x8)- with the Zalman I am getting 57C load with the fan on low and 45C on high (9x400@1.4V). Even pushing 1.5V I barely hit 60C.... a full 10C below thermal spec for a G0.
-I'll take a look at upgrading to the 650 version of this PSU. I still think 550 might be more than enough, especially if I don't SLI. This is an 80+ eff PSU.

-I'm not sold on the performance enhancement of RAID 0. While it was popular a year or so ago most sites now seem to agree that it's not providing any tangible performance boost. Plus, it increases heat, noise, & power reqs. Anyone disagree?

-I'll upgrade my CPU cooler. What Zalman cooler are you specifically referring too?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gollie
Arctic Cooler: Good for 3.2Ghz
Tuniq Tower: Good for 3.4Ghz
Lapped TRUE: Good for 3.6Ghz
-I've never lapped a heatsink before, but I can learn. Is this with or without a fan? Same for the tuniq, with or without a fan?
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post #6 of 12
Lapping a heatsink, no fan.
I'll find you the tut for lapping heatsinks here in a sec and edit my post. (computer won't let me open new windows oddly....)


lapping heatsink: http://www.overclock.net/cooling-exp...technique.html
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post #7 of 12
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What about a Turniq Tower and replacing the fan with a better one, like a scythe? I could get a better performing fan that moves more air with less noise and has a 3pin connector (model # suggestions welcome ) - No lapping, no junk paste removal process, just replace fan, dab some artic silver, and off you go!

Like this one: Sythe 120mm, 110.31 CFM

Plus, both this fan and the tuniq are less than $50 right now at the egg, half the price of the thermalright.
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post #8 of 12
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I am on the verge of buying this system (its in the cart now). Powersupply upgraded to the 620 version (I looked at the 750 but I would like modular cables). However, I think I want an SLI board for future proofing a bit, which one can I get that would give me comparable overclocks to this DS3L?
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post #9 of 12
the 550 is enough im sure of it even and 450 w would be enough just like what im running

E6850 3.8Ghz OC
8800GTS 320mb
1 SATA hard drive
1idE HDD
one dvd burner
card reader
fan controller
and a total of 5 case fans +1 CPU fan
post #10 of 12
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It looks like, unless there's objection, that I am going to pick up the MSI P7N Plat SLI board instead of the Gigabyte. Both appear to be great OCs but the P7N has a good cooling system, works with ESA (if that will ever matter), and is SLI for about $25 more. I'll post in the MB forum and see what they have to say.
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