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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike View Post
I'm unimpressed with anything under 15,000:1. Im assuming this is just the dynamic contrast ratio anyway. Static Contrast Ratio is the most important number, which always significantly lower than dynamic.
What are you basing your contrast ratio off of? No LCDs today offer a static contrast ratio anywhere near that. Besides which, dynamic contrast ratio is more realistic for general use needs unless you only look at still photographs.
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post #22 of 92
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What are you basing your contrast ratio off of? No LCDs today offer a static contrast ratio anywhere near that. Besides which, dynamic contrast ratio is more realistic for general use needs unless you only look at still photographs.
Current HDTV's. 15000:1 is on the low end for a good TV.
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I agree with the poster who stated that 15ms = good and that obsesing about 2-3ms = bad.

Think about it... we are talking MILLIseconds here!

My monitor is (afaicr) 5 - 8ms and shows no tearing or artifacting whatsoever. Also my friend has a 15ms monitor that drops no frames, no tearing, no ghosting. (An LG 17" which I bought for her for her birthday)

It is kind of like when back in the day peeps were bragging about theiur 120fps yet they were running monitors (CRT) @ 100hz

THEREFORE LOSING 20 fps.
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post #24 of 92
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Current HDTV's. 15000:1 is on the low end for a good TV.
True... and if ya do yer research, one will find that SAMSUNG have the highest contrast-ratios on the market... that is what helps me sell samsung TVs in my job ^_^

I LOVE samsungs products... and they actually make the screens for SONY tv
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post #25 of 92
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Current HDTV's. 15000:1 is on the low end for a good TV.
Dynamic...yes but any professional calibrator out there will tell you to disable anything that is suppose to "improve" the contrast because it hurts the picture overall. Brand new LCDs have a static contrast of about 3000:1, and this is top of the line ($2,700+) TVs. I just put together a new $10,000 HT setup and there was no HDTV near a static contrast ratio of 15000:1 that I saw.

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I agree with the poster who stated that 15ms = good and that obsesing about 2-3ms = bad.

Think about it... we are talking MILLIseconds here!

My monitor is (afaicr) 5 - 8ms and shows no tearing or artifacting whatsoever. Also my friend has a 15ms monitor that drops no frames, no tearing, no ghosting. (An LG 17" which I bought for her for her birthday)

It is kind of like when back in the day peeps were bragging about theiur 120fps yet they were running monitors (CRT) @ 100hz

THEREFORE LOSING 20 fps.
Keep in mind that those are Gray-to-Gray measurements usually. Black-to-White and White-to-Black are usually noticable on any LCD because they take ALOT longer to switch than Gray-to-Gray. I wish they would start giving more response time rather than just one.
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Dynamic...yes but any professional calibrator out there will tell you to disable anything that is suppose to "improve" the contrast because it hurts the picture overall. Brand new LCDs have a static contrast of about 3000:1, and this is top of the line ($2,700+) TVs. I just put together a new $10,000 HT setup and there was no HDTV near a static contrast ratio of 15000:1 that I saw.
I know, I'm talking about Dynamic. As I said before, static ratio is always significantly less.
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I know, I'm talking about Dynamic. As I said before, static ratio is always significantly less.
Alright just checking. I figured you were talking about dynamic, I know that you know your TVs

My new TV has a 15,000:1 with dynamic contrast on it and it looks horrible compared to the static 3000:1. I really don't see why they even put that feature on the TVs.
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post #28 of 92
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Alright just checking. I figured you were talking about dynamic, I know that you know your TVs

My new TV has a 15,000:1 with dynamic contrast on it and it looks horrible compared to the static 3000:1. I really don't see why they even put that feature on the TVs.
I figure it's jsut a marketing gimmick for when consumers compare TVs.
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post #29 of 92
That contrast rate wont even matter on a monitor with that poor of response time.
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True... and if ya do yer research, one will find that SAMSUNG have the highest contrast-ratios on the market... that is what helps me sell samsung TVs in my job ^_^

I LOVE samsungs products... and they actually make the screens for SONY tv
Oh god you sound just like a Co-worker James. Samsung and Sony SHARE a plant, they don't make each others TV's.. Information direct from Samsung and Sony and their respective representative's.

Back to the topic, thanks for the information stargate.
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