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It clearly says Intel pays six times as much as AMD for similar services, it does not mean they're pathetic, just business as usual...
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Originally Posted by Tyrker View Post
They did fall behind in the cpu world true, for now, but they do have great GPUs now which are wonderful .
I wouldn't call them great. The 3870 is ok, but even the 9600GT beats it. The 3870X2 will likely lose its crown to the single GPU 9800GTX here shortly. Granted, the 3870 is a huge improvement over the 2900XT, which was horrible - yes horrible, and I'm saying this as an ATI owner. ATI isn't anything what it used to be. The 9700, 850XT and X1900XTX were absolute killers. ATI only just recently took the high end, after over a year, and even then, its 2 GPUs stuck together.
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I actually disagree with you on ATI's purchase not being a smart move. I do agree that it did impede their ability to focus on and release a serious C2D competitor much earlier than they did/will, but in the mean time ATI's relatively successful GPU lines have been a steady source of income. They diversified their product line to plan for the long term, and give an extra buffer if indeed Phenom was not a hot seller.
AMD could have put that money into CPU tech research. While purchasing ATI itself may not have been a bad idea, the timing of the purchase was horrible. AMD should have first established a competitor to Intel's Core 2 line, and then moved to make the purchase. Making the purchase of ATI without doing so has resulted in both companies being severely crippled.

AMD is going to have a very hard time competing with Nehalem, and once Intel's discrete GPUs hit the market, the competition between Intel and nVidia is likely going to be very fierce. If AMD doesn't put more resources into R&D, they risk being pushed out of the discrete GPU market entirely. In fact, Intel's GPU project (Larrabee) was largely brought on as a response to AMD purchasing ATI. So, in a sense, they very well may have dug their own grave.

My apologies for being cynical, but AMD has made a number of mistakes that have cost them dearly recently.
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