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I don't plan to overclock the GPU. I don't have time to invest in testing. Not with 2 kids running around. Any spare moment I have, I rather be gaming.

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The 8800GTX is a better card. Unless you see 3DMark06 as a game then the new cards aren't really that great.

I've owned a G92 GTS for just about a month and frankly I wasn't impressed. It gave higher overclocks and higher average FPS, but it also made me realized that FPS isn't always the key. I've seen sudden stutters and heavy fluctuation in FPS compared to the GTX. I'd rather have a lower but much more stable FPS than higher FPS that isn't as constant. This is something people who never owned both card can't tell you.

Here's how I see it:
G92 GTS = Corvette C6 Z06
8800GTX = Aston Martin DB9
3DMark06 = race track
Games = public roads

For an everyday car on public roads, I'd much rather have the more comfortable DB9 than a Z06 that performs good on the track but would break my back on the roads on top of the worst Bose sound system.

3DMark is never an accurate test on how a card performs in actual games. The stability of the FPS is most noticeable in Source. With Vsync enabled I've limited my max FPS to 60 to eliminate screen tearing, and with the GTX I get very stable 60 that dips down to 50 sometimes while the GTS would get me 60 most of the time and dips down to 20-30 for a few seconds when there's a good amount of actions going on. In case you wonder, I only game at 1680x1050.
YOU DROP TO 30 IN SOURCE??? That's complete crap, I NEVER drop below 55 fps with all high settings enabled with a 7900GT 256mb.
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GTS is better. GTX is not better. He is just saying that because he is mad he spent so much and there is a card that's cheaper that can keep up with his card, and if not keep up with it, beat it.
    
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YOU DROP TO 30 IN SOURCE??? That's complete crap, I NEVER drop below 55 fps with all high settings enabled with a 7900GT 256mb.
There is an issue with 64bit drivers with the g92 GTS.

GTX though, I have no idea. My bud runs at that res with a GTX and a quad oc'd to 3.6, never drops below 60.
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Well, it looks like it's been decided for me. I just got back from Microcenter to pick up a Q6600, PCP&P 750W Silencer, and an eVGA 780i MB.

I went to Newegg to get the 8800GTX, but the promo code no longer works.

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The 8800GTX is a better card. Unless you see 3DMark06 as a game then the new cards aren't really that great.

I've owned a G92 GTS for just about a month and frankly I wasn't impressed. It gave higher overclocks and higher average FPS, but it also made me realized that FPS isn't always the key. I've seen sudden stutters and heavy fluctuation in FPS compared to the GTX. I'd rather have a lower but much more stable FPS than higher FPS that isn't as constant. This is something people who never owned both card can't tell you.

Here's how I see it:
G92 GTS = Corvette C6 Z06
8800GTX = Aston Martin DB9
3DMark06 = race track
Games = public roads

For an everyday car on public roads, I'd much rather have the more comfortable DB9 than a Z06 that performs good on the track but would break my back on the roads on top of the worst Bose sound system.

3DMark is never an accurate test on how a card performs in actual games. The stability of the FPS is most noticeable in Source. With Vsync enabled I've limited my max FPS to 60 to eliminate screen tearing, and with the GTX I get very stable 60 that dips down to 50 sometimes while the GTS would get me 60 most of the time and dips down to 20-30 for a few seconds when there's a good amount of actions going on. In case you wonder, I only game at 1680x1050.
lol i dont know what the F is wrong with your system but your GTS in CS should NEVER drop below 60FPS even with syncing.

I run without sync and get no lower than 100FPS at max usually 100-200 FPS but of coarse my monitor only shows me 60 or 75 of those frames because of the refresh rate.
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The 8800GTX is a better card. Unless you see 3DMark06 as a game then the new cards aren't really that great.

I've owned a G92 GTS for just about a month and frankly I wasn't impressed. It gave higher overclocks and higher average FPS, but it also made me realized that FPS isn't always the key. I've seen sudden stutters and heavy fluctuation in FPS compared to the GTX. I'd rather have a lower but much more stable FPS than higher FPS that isn't as constant. This is something people who never owned both card can't tell you.

Here's how I see it:
G92 GTS = Corvette C6 Z06
8800GTX = Aston Martin DB9
3DMark06 = race track
Games = public roads

For an everyday car on public roads, I'd much rather have the more comfortable DB9 than a Z06 that performs good on the track but would break my back on the roads on top of the worst Bose sound system.

3DMark is never an accurate test on how a card performs in actual games. The stability of the FPS is most noticeable in Source. With Vsync enabled I've limited my max FPS to 60 to eliminate screen tearing, and with the GTX I get very stable 60 that dips down to 50 sometimes while the GTS would get me 60 most of the time and dips down to 20-30 for a few seconds when there's a good amount of actions going on. In case you wonder, I only game at 1680x1050.
When I first started reading the thread I was thinking that the GTS might actually be better than the GTX.

I'm glad you brought it all back into perspective. I will drop to 50 at times in CoD4/TF2 but never into the 30's @ 1680x1050. The GTS does not have the backbone to keep up during intense action sequences.

The GTX will still give you more longevity over time. You might find someone looking to get rid of an Ultra for cheap since the new cards are coming out. Find an Ultra for $350 and buy it. The new 9800's don't look like they are going to be much of an improvement over the 8800 series.
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Okay.....just ordered the 8800GTX through Newegg. Strangely, the $60 off promo code did not work for me earlier this afternoon. However, just for the heck of it, I tried it again just now and it worked.

Now I have 2 questions regarding Newegg shipping. Unfortunately, I forgot one of the questions.

So here is the question I still remember. At what point is the order processed? Is it when your credit card is charged?

I ask because there is a $50 mail in rebate to make it $300. To qualify for the rebate, the product must be purchased by 2/29. I submitted the order at 10:04PM PST. I cut it close and I want to make sure I still qualify for the rebate.

Just as an FYI, I went with the 8800GTX instead of the 8800GTS 512MB thinking that if I decided to use the 90 day step up program from eVGA, I would get a bigger credit from the 8800GTX vs 8800GTS 512MB. Not sure if this will be the case for sure, but just my thinking. Also, reviews I've seen show a very slight performance gain at 1920x1200 resolution with the 8800GTX.

Thanks everyone for your input!

Tae

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There is an issue with 64bit drivers with the g92 GTS.

GTX though, I have no idea. My bud runs at that res with a GTX and a quad oc'd to 3.6, never drops below 60.
It's not that, read below.

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YOU DROP TO 30 IN SOURCE??? That's complete crap, I NEVER drop below 55 fps with all high settings enabled with a 7900GT 256mb.
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lol i dont know what the F is wrong with your system but your GTS in CS should NEVER drop below 60FPS even with syncing.

I run without sync and get no lower than 100FPS at max usually 100-200 FPS but of coarse my monitor only shows me 60 or 75 of those frames because of the refresh rate.
It wasn't a long drop at all, but it's one of those half a second drop once in a while that annoys me. When I build a PC I expect my games to run as smoothly as they would on an optimized version for consoles, and since we PC gamers never get that extreme optimization, we have to choose hardwares accordingly to make it up.

If you guys play GMod you'll know what I mean, with an extreme amount of objects, the GTS's 256-bit 512MB is just not enough, and that tells me future games can only use more and more complex textures to compensate for other things in graphics. After all, 512MB was really last year's standard. 128MB was overkill 4 years ago.

Of course some people wouldn't care for these half-second drops, but it becomes more apparent in more demanding games especially in Crysis. The 512MB makes it stutter so much because it can't hold all those textures in it. Even the 768MB in the GTX was being pushed with over 700MB in use. To be honest, shader-wise the GTX is really enough for pretty much anything as of now, might as well make the game smoother than competing with numbers.
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GTS b/c:
1. Newer core revision
2. Less power consumption
3. Less heat generated
4. Possibly more OC headroom
5. HD processor that takes burden off cpu during video output
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