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i'll just get the OEM version from newegg for my laptop
Exactly... how often do you replace the mobo in a laptop as an upgrade?

More or less, for a lappy, the OEM might be the best deal.
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I hate M$ft. )
    
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I hate M. )
Heh... "Join the club". But then again, it's a "love/hate" relationship for me.

Pretty much you have to swallow the good with the bad.... kinda like getting married (but that's another topic altogether... )
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At that price it would be cheaper for me to buy another copy of xp and then to buy the upgrade version of ultimate for $180
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This place seems to have the full retail end-user version of Ultimate for $256. Has anyone ever ordered from them or do you know if they are legit?

http://www.royaldiscount.com/miwiviulfuve.html

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In the long run, retail will save you money.



That doesn't mean, "Oh, my mobo broke. Yay, I'll go out and buy a new one and keep the same key!"

It means, "Oh, my mobo broke. Better RMA my old one and get the same one back (or hope that they somehow upgrade me in the process.)"

Breaking your old board doesn't allow you to go out and buy a new board and use the same key.



It's called OEM, bro. It's cheaper for a reason, and that reason is not because it doesn't come in a box.

This OEM version is intended to be used on one computer. It is for system manufacturers to put this lower cost version on a single computer, ever. It just so happens that we like this version because the (initial) cost is cheaper, but we're complaining about the rules because we want windows to be cheaper. It is what it is.
No, in the end retail won't save you money.

Vista retail may only be transferred ONCE. That means you could have just purchased two OEM's for the same price.

Read up on it a little before getting all worked up about Vista OEM piracy and then spreading false information about Vista Retail that will cause people to unknowingly commit piracy.

From Vista Retail EULA:

Quote:
Originally Posted by M$
"The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the 'licensed device.'"

You're just as well off buying either of them, or even better, neither. Microsoft really stepped over the line on this one IMO.
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Get it off eBay...

People sell FULL (x86/64bit) versions of Ultimate all day for $200.
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Originally Posted by Gollie View Post
Get it off eBay...

People sell FULL (x86/64bit) versions of Ultimate all day for $200.
I won my copy of Ultimate Retail for $160 shipped.


On a side note to those screaming "PIRATE PIRATE PIRATE!", Microsoft employees have stated several times that they understand that enthusiasts change hardware often (as in monthly) and so that this section of the EULA is not necessarily aimed directly at the enthusiasts.

Hence why we can still call and reactivate our copies of XP and Vista even though it is "illegal".
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Originally Posted by iandh View Post
I won my copy of Ultimate Retail for $160 shipped.


On a side note to those screaming "PIRATE PIRATE PIRATE!", Microsoft employees have stated several times that they understand that enthusiasts change hardware often (as in monthly) and so that this section of the EULA is not necessarily aimed directly at the enthusiasts.

Hence why we can still call and reactivate our copies of XP and Vista even though it is "illegal".
Indeed. However guys keep this thread clean please .
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No, in the end retail won't save you money.

Vista retail may only be transferred ONCE. That means you could have just purchased two OEM's for the same price.

Read up on it a little before getting all worked up about Vista OEM piracy and then spreading false information about Vista Retail that will cause people to unknowingly commit piracy.

From Vista Retail EULA:

Originally Posted by M$
"The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the 'licensed device.'"



You're just as well off buying either of them, or even better, neither. Microsoft really stepped over the line on this one IMO.
Umm... I think you have read more into that single statement of the Microsoft Vista EULA than what is actually implied. That statement is only concerning the Installation of the software... not the re-install of the software to subsequent upgrades of your hardware (including your motherboard).

In this case.. you are the one spreading "false information" about the differences of the retail product and the OEM.

Here is a link to the EULA for Vista Ultimate: http://download.microsoft.com/docume...9cf5105718.pdf

Here is what it actually states...

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2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license, you must assign that license to one device (physical hardware system). That device is the “licensed device.†A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.

a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. Except as provided in the Storage and Network Use (Ultimate edition) sections below, you may not use the software on any other device.

b. Number of Users. Except as provided in the Device Connections (all editions), Remote Access Technologies (Home Basic and Home Premium editions) and Other Access Technologies (Ultimate edition) sections below, only one user may use the software at a time.

c. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may use only one version at one time.

Additionally, further down in the EULA there is this section as well...

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15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE.

a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices.

b. Windows Anytime Upgrade Software. The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time, but only if the license terms of the software you upgraded from allows reassignment.
Basically this is stating that if you have the FULL RETAIL VERSION of the software (not an Upgrade) you can uninstall and re-install it to as many times as you want to a single "device" (i.e. physical hardware system) as long as you don't transfer the ownership of the software to a third party or use it on more than one device (system) at a time.

I think you are confusing "Transfer" with "Re-installation/Hardware Upgrade"...

When you "TRANSFER" ownership of the software (which you can only do ONCE since you are physically changing ownership of it to another person), you don't have the copy of the software anymore once the transaction is complete... therefore the part you stated above has nothing to do with the re-installation of the software on your own hardware as long as you only run one copy on one device.

Bottom line is... if you buy the FULL RETAIL VERSION of Windows, you can re-install it as many times as you want as you upgrade your hardware as long as you don't run the software on multiple computers using the same license and you retain ownership of the software.
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