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My maximus has killed 3 sets of Mushkins. From what I understand, they don't play nice with micron ic's. I'm using the G-Skill pc2-8000 (promo chips) right now until I can come up with a better solution.
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Have you measured your VDimm? Mine OVs from 0.10-0.20V as you increase it. Auto/1.80 in BIOS is 1.88 Fluke DMM verified, 2.0 in BIOS is 2.10 with my DMM. 2.20 in bios gives me 2.34 measured with my DMM, while 2.30 gives me 2.48V.

Additionally I've found that the Crucial heat spreaders tend to seperate from the ICs. I my self have killed 3 sets of Ballistix- one on my P5NE and 2 on the Maximus. I truly believe it's the heat spreaders.
I always go by actual voltages rather than set voltages, which is why I find this problem so irritating... these sticks are dying even when running at or below actual spec voltages. (2.14v set, 2.192v actual, 2.2v spec) I just received 4 GB back from Crucial, but I'm not sure if I'm comfortable putting it back in a Maximus board. Maybe I can find a home for it in my P5K server...
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post #163 of 339
Does that pencil mod work for a Rampage Formula board as well? I know these boards are very similar.
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I believe that I read a post that said it did, but I can't find the post here. Maybe I read it in the XS or Hard forums... it would make sense that the mod would work though, as the two are essentially the same board.
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post #165 of 339
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My maximus has killed 3 sets of Mushkins. From what I understand, they don't play nice with micron ic's. I'm using the G-Skill pc2-8000 (promo chips) right now until I can come up with a better solution.
Maybe you already know, but I've notice that the MF overvolts memory by 0.1V... maybe that's what killed your RAM? Say, if your RAM is rated @ 2.1V, you should put 2.0V at the DRAM Voltage settings.
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post #166 of 339
Does anyone know if I can use the digital audio outputs on the board without using the sound expansion card (which I don't have)?
    
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I am very sad Arjy is having problems with their Ballistix, especially considering they only have 2x1. Since we both have the same configuration, I hope they look at my BIOS Settings Thread. I find two of THESE to perform very WELL, no matter what others say. However, they are not on ASUS's QVL (qualified vendor list). And, nor are they on Crucial's for that matter, so perhaps you ought to take my recommendation with a (large) grain of salt. It's just that I have had excellent results with that RAM on this board.
Yea, ditto for notes the QVL. I agree that they highly reccomendable for use with the MF. Those actually were QVL both by Intel and Micron, and removed sometime after I bought all my stuff. I have had fabulous results with the combination, other than the untimley death of 3 kits. IMO it was removed due to the MF's notorious reputation for OV on the DIMMs, and not due to any true hardware incompatibilities. Quite simply, the D9 series ICs have shown themselves to be one of the best for use on the P35/X38/6x0i boards.

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I always go by actual voltages rather than set voltages, which is why I find this problem so irritating... these sticks are dying even when running at or below actual spec voltages. (2.14v set, 2.192v actual, 2.2v spec) I just received 4 GB back from Crucial, but I'm not sure if I'm comfortable putting it back in a Maximus board. Maybe I can find a home for it in my P5K server...
I've had the same problem myself, Sticks dying at 2.10, 2.17, and 2.20V measured, both on the MF and on my old P5N-E. I really don't think it's a voltage issue, I think it's heat. I've said it a million times, take out the modules after a couple of weeks and look, you'll probably see the TIM tape pulling away from some of the ICs.
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Maybe you already know, but I've notice that the MF overvolts memory by 0.1V... maybe that's what killed your RAM? Say, if your RAM is rated @ 2.1V, you should put 2.0V at the DRAM Voltage settings.
My ov on the ram slots is even more agressive, 11-12 millivolts so I took this into account and went by actual voltage. My Mushkins use the same IC's as the Crucials that have been dieing in these boards. Also, My ram was undervolted on two of the failures with relatively loose timings and <1000mhz.

Its absolutely terrible that a board with this kind of potential would have a longevity issue with the best overclocking IC's on the market.
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I got that Kingston HyperX PC8500 5-5-5-15 2.2V 4x1Gb kit this afternoon and popped it in. Much to my suprise, they did 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 and 800MHz 4-4-4-12 @ 2.00V, memtest stable. Not characteristic of any Micron D9 that I have ever tested, usually they need 2.10-2.20V. Additionally, the sub-timings were more agressively set at stock, actually they are set tighter than the last set after serious tweaking.

Pulled off the heat spreaders and found, contrary to Kingston's spec sheet and rep's best guess, they have Elpida -8E-E ICs.

That's fine by me if they do their stock speed/timings at or below stock voltage. I'm going to do some benchmarks and see how they run at different speeds and timings- first 1066 and 800 MHz, then I'll see what kind of OC I can get.
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My ov on the ram slots is even more agressive, 11-12 millivolts so I took this into account and went by actual voltage. My Mushkins use the same IC's as the Crucials that have been dieing in these boards. Also, My ram was undervolted on two of the failures with relatively loose timings and <1000mhz.

Its absolutely terrible that a board with this kind of potential would have a longevity issue with the best overclocking IC's on the market.
Another thing I read in anandtech, is the fact that if you're heavily overclocking, you shouldn't use the "Load Line Calibration" function in the BIOS, which basically corrects Vdroop.

This board is definitely picky with RAM. These Patriot Viper sticks that I'm running, refuse to run at CAS 4 (even at 4-4-4-12 and overvolting RAM at 2.3V, and upping the Northbridge voltages to like 1.5V).

Funny thing, is that running them at 5-4-4-9, with the Rampage Formula BIOS, and tweaking the Performance Levels (tRD) pull-ins, I actually have better bandwidth at CAS5 than CAS4! ... I also have another set of 4x1GB Corsair XMS2, that cannot run at CAS4 on this board, at their specified voltages and speeds, at least when overclocking (not that I have a monster overclock).
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