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Originally Posted by tr8rjohnk View Post
Interesting, do you have a link? Did they give any specific reasons?
Here's the review you asked for.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3149
About midway down on the second page talks about the NB issue.
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Here you go. It's for the Rampage Formula, which we know is almost identical to the Maximus, sans the X48 MCH.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2



There's another article where they go DEEP into analyzing Vdroop with and without load line calibration. In my case, I have it disabled, because my CPU runs hotter with it enabled, but my Vdroop decreases. It certainly puts more strain into your power supply. But, it gives you the advantage of having better control of your Vcore since the Vdroop with it enabled, is not as massive.

Also, bottom line, if you have a really high FSB on this board, and you're running almost to the limit of what your CPU can take in terms of voltage, you should turn LLC OFF especially if you're using Intel SpeedStep. When the CPU transitions from a higher frequency to a lower one, or viceversa, there's quite a chance of a voltage overshoot.

Edit: Found the article! It's a good read:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=6
Very good read but leaves me with some questions. It seems this would affect systems that enable speedstep (I don't). Also, I wouldn't mind giving up the .5mV and getting consistency in return.

Lets face it, we use high vcore to achieve our oc's and setting 1.5875 (bios) to get 1.48 (actual) is scary!

Also, doesn't this make pencil-modding a bad thing?

Do I make sence here or did I misread something?
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Definitely remove the heatsinks and reapply TIM. The open box boards seem to have been inspected, and had the heatsink removed. Then instead of cleaning off the old and reapplying the new, they usd a different type of TIM and just left the old epoxy like TIM still there.

The best way to remove it is to remove the pushpins holding it inplace, then heat the NB heatsink with a hairdryer and slide it off. Then use nail polish remover to clean off the epoxy like TIM. If you try to scrape it off, the mating surface will be damaged.
Thanks for the heads up. Also, will the HS work effectively as is or do I need to have a circuit running to it in order to have the NB effectively cooled? The article seemed to say that with adequate airflow it would be ok but I wanted to make sure.

In regards to the new TIM, they (anandtech) said the epoxy holding their waterblock on failed so they applied TIM and then re-epoxied the boundary of the block to hold it down. Do you think I should try to get the block to delaminate and then improvise some kind of clamp or just leave it be?
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In regards to the new TIM, they (anandtech) said the epoxy holding their waterblock on failed so they applied TIM and then re-epoxied the boundary of the block to hold it down. Do you think I should try to get the block to delaminate and then improvise some kind of clamp or just leave it be?

I'd say take it off and reseat with AS5. That epoxy is garbage for thermal conductivity, and if it was open box, there is a chance the HS has already been removed anyway.

Note that you may want to use Ceramique or another non-conductive TIM for thermal grease on the VRM MOSFETs. The contacts are exposed, and you could short one out with a dab of conductive AS5. Personally, I VERY CAREFULLY applied AS5, using a tiny amount to make a very thin layer with a rubber spatula.

You will also probably want to get some 3M 8010 thermal tape for between the aluminum fins that connect the 2 seperate pieces together. You can contact their sales department for a free sample.
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Another thing I read in anandtech, is the fact that if you're heavily overclocking, you shouldn't use the "Load Line Calibration" function in the BIOS, which basically corrects Vdroop.
I tried turning it off without adjusting any other settings on my 24/7 stable configuration, and it was an instantaneous fail for stability in OCCT.
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Also, doesn't this make pencil-modding a bad thing?
I don't think so. I did the pencil mod today, and was able to lower my Vcore from 1.42500 to 1.4000 in BIOS and disable the Load Line Calibration. Now real time Vcore is 1.385V idle and 1.400V load- same as with Load Line Calibration enabled @1.425V before the mod., while CPU temps have remained constant, and NB temps have dropped 2C- likely due to less strain and heat from the VRMs.
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Does anyone have the DDR3 G.SKill 2x2GB 1600 with the black heat spreaders? I can't get my computer to run stable with any settings with these sticks w/ Maximus Extreme, let alone OC with them.
    
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Does anyone have the DDR3 G.SKill 2x2GB 1600 with the black heat spreaders? I can't get my computer to run stable with any settings with these sticks w/ Maximus Extreme, let alone OC with them.
Did you set the voltage? DDR3 default voltage is 1.5v.
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Did you set the voltage? DDR3 default voltage is 1.5v.
Thanks for the tip - in order to get the ram stable, I had to increase the NB to over 1.5v and the DRAM to over 1.9v, but now it is running well.
    
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Not sure if it is News worthy, but figured I might as well post it here. Maximus Formula Bios 1201 is out. I haven't tried it yet seeing as I don't have Memory issues. But it looks like it could fix a lot of peoples problems, memory seems to be a finicky thing with this board.

If it was already mentioned, just ignore me


Bios 1201
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Thank you for the heads up, latest Maximus and Rampage bioses added to the front post.

I would like to thank all of you for making this thread work, and major thanks to ericeod and Ravin for all their help!

Please +rep them for their efforts, they deserve it!
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Thank you for the heads up, latest Maximus and Rampage bioses added to the front post.

I would like to thank all of you for making this thread work, and major thanks to ericeod and Ravin for all their help!

Please +rep them for their efforts, they deserve it!
Thanks man, although none required for me! Half of my advice came from Ericeod, and Dostoyevsky77, the other half from XS forums I just repeat what I hear
Edited by Ravin - 5/11/08 at 7:56am
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