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Yeah, I didn't really explain myself very well, I do agree with your assessment. What bugs me is the charts in that article, the vcore fluctuation (even though it's on a small scale) with llc on bugged the crap out of me. I'd rather deal with a slight vdroop (very slight with pencil mod) and more stable vcore overall than mess with that chart that looks like a seismograph in a 8.5 quake, lol.
yeah. i dont think that 45nm procs would like that very much due to those fluctuations in voltage, especially when u go up the fsb. but probably tolerable in 65 with a bit of headroom in vcore.
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Can you linky to the article. I've been running LLC with my E8400 with no problems, but I'd like to see this.
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Hey, finally got my Maximus Formula, RAM, Processor and Case (ones listed below) after many stock issues and delays. Still haven't installed it in the case, need to run some tests on the memory and processor before deciding to keep them
Well I made a boo boo with my PSU, I shorted it somehow, faulty cable maybe, so I'm stuck using a generic 400W or my old Rosewill 500W.
I lent my 7600GT to a friend, and was using on board VGA with my GB945, the store dude lent me his MSI 6800 to test the board, he gave it to me in a plastic bag, and said "dont vowwy abouu it!!!!", as expected it was busted, tried it on 3 motherboards just to be sure. And go the beeps on the Maximus too, One long continued by3 short.
So I'm stuck for a while, going to POST asa I get my 7600.

A small problem... well not really a problem,
My board seems to take longer to beep with 2 Ram sticks than 1. Like immediately with 1 stick and about 6-7 seconds later with 2.
^^Any Ideas???

Thanks.
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Can you linky to the article. I've been running LLC with my E8400 with no problems, but I'd like to see this.
Here:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=6

and here is some more info on the Rampage Formula as well:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2
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Thanks, REP. I've read that second article... several times. It really helped me understand NB-RAM-FSB interaction like I'd never understood it before. When people ask what's the use of flashing to Rampage, I link to that article.

feltadox1337, I wouldn't worry about how long it takes to POST. The important thing is that it's passing POST! One thought would be that with two sticks, maybe it's testing dual-channel separately, something it wouldn't need to do with one stick. If you wanted to test this, you could put both sticks in mismatched (ie, in different color slots) and see how long it takes.

What kind of store do you go to that the dude lent you a video card? Working or not, that's some pretty good customer service.
Edited by Dostoyevsky77 - 6/6/08 at 9:24am
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feltadox1337, I wouldn't worry about how long it takes to POST. The important thing is that it's passing POST! One thought would be that with two sticks, maybe it's testing dual-channel separately, something it wouldn't need to do with one stick. If you wanted to test this, you could put both sticks in mismatched (ie, in different color slots) and see how long it takes.

What kind of store do you go to that the dude lent you a video card? Working or not, that's some pretty good customer service.
Aaah, cool! I'll try that, with the mismatched slots.

Heh, Speaking of good customer service, I just got back from the store, the dude lent me another one, this one is some gigabyte passive cooled card, I'll put up some pics soon. This time I took my own anti-static bag. XD
Its a local store here in Bethesda, I get all my stuff there.
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Okay, I'm thirty minutes stable at 1.38v actual (load) with LLC off. I'll run it overnight to see if there's a difference. I had to jack BIOS volts to 1.435, whereas before it was at 1.4125 to get the same load voltage. That's only two more detents higher, and seems reasonable to me. We'll see how it does overnight, but I've always thought LLC was a blessing on this board, not a liability!

REP to Urufu_Shinjiro and another to Rev1 for helping me not have to google "loadline calibration site:anandtech.com". Man, I'm lazy.
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Okay, I'm thirty minutes stable at 1.38v actual (load) with LLC off. I'll run it overnight to see if there's a difference. I had to jack BIOS volts to 1.435, whereas before it was at 1.4125 to get the same load voltage. That's only two more detents higher, and seems reasonable to me. We'll see how it does overnight, but I've always thought LLC was a blessing on this board, not a liability!

REP to Urufu_Shinjiro and another to Rev1 for helping me not have to google "loadline calibration site:anandtech.com". Man, I'm lazy.
Check to see if your load temps are lower with the LLC turned off, despite your higher Vcore.. In my case, it was, by about 4-5 under load... my idles were 2-3 higher with LLC.

Do you have EIST and C1E enabled?
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Set it up again, with the new VGA card, guess what ---- POST!!!!!!!!!!

Worked like a charm, no problems at all. I'm using the stock intel cooler for now, cus Its going to be a while before I get this up and running, so the 9500 stays on my P4 for now. The temps were a bit high, like around the 40C mark(last 2 pics), is this normal with the stock fan?
Everything is at stock for now, going to OC it asa I'm a bit free.
Ran memtest for 2 hrs, got 1 and a half passes !!! Will run again for longer! But I don't think I NEED to!

Some CPU-Z, RealTemp and OCCT pics:








Ill put up some pics of the setup when I upload them from my cam.
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Check to see if your load temps are lower with the LLC turned off, despite your higher Vcore.. In my case, it was, by about 4-5 under load... my idles were 2-3 higher with LLC.

Do you have EIST and C1E enabled?
No, both disabled. Only execute disable bit is enabled in CPU config.

I failed my overnight stress after about two hours. I caught it before I went to bed and upped vCore to 1.45 for 1.41 actual. That was stable overnight, but that's a lot of vCore. Right now, I'm back to 1.38 with LLC on. Temperatures were about the same.
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