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This one is real too, honest -

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This one is real too, honest -
YouTube - Ferias na praia
LOL That would be amazing...

Although this one is supposedly real. My professor showed us the video when talking about control surfaces and how extreme the 747 is.

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RANDOM POST FOR 5000th!!!

GO ME!

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Regarding the 1 winged landing video; I'm not sure if it's real or fake, but from an aerodynamic standpoint, it is possible (however, this does not rule out the possibility of it having been an RC aircraft). I read comments on some sites that claimed that the plane was rolling the wrong way when the wing snapped and when the plane was righted just before landing. Yet most people do not realize/know that most aerobatic aircraft have symmetric airfoils (for maneuverability) and significantly more thrust than the weight of the aircraft (allowing vertical climbs), whereas most conventional aircraft have chambered airfoils to provide better lift and stability and the thrust of the engines is only designed to counter the drag and not be greater than the weight of the plane.
It is apparent that in the moments before the wing break the aircraft was pulled into an inverted position then rolled to get it into an upright stance and during the roll the wing snapped in the direction opposite the roll. Also, during the landing the plane is brought in in a knife edge stance (common skill of stunt pilots) which is possible in an aerobatic aircraft due to the high thrust:weight ratio and relies on the thrust of the engine to keep it aloft (notice the upward angle of the fuselage) and just before landing the one can see the aileron in the upward position (seen as right due to the 90 degree orientation of the plane) which would roll the plane to the left additionally one can also hear that the engine was throttled down at the same moment as the roll which would result in the plane losing lift and dropping down to the ground.

All I'm saying is that it is physically and aerodynamically possible in an aerobatic aircraft (full size or scale RC model) so CGI would not be necessary to create such a video. Some people claim that the flight was done with an RC plane and at the moment of landing the video was blurred to transition to an actual aircraft; yet if this were the case one would notice a scale difference in the background, also, oftentimes rapid action is not easily picked up during digital conversions (either in a digital camcorder, during A/D conversions, or during video compression) and is thus blurred.

So is it possible that it actually happened? Yes
Is it possible that it was faked and/or staged? Yes
So there's bound to be arguments about the reality and with what we know ATM it's hard to state conclusively if it's real or fake



In terms of the 747 landing that WBaS posted; That is a common technique used by airline pilots during crosswind landing. A crosswind will tend to push the aircraft to the side and so the pilot must compensate to keep the plane aligned with the center of the runway. There are actually 2 techniques used. The first is to drop the wing on the windward side such that the downwind wing is producing more lift to keep the plane on course; this dictates the maximum crosswind landing conditions for the aircraft such that the wingtip and/or engines do not contact the ground during landing. The other technique (shown in the video) is to put the aircraft into a crabbed position where the nose of the plane is pointing into the wind and then yawed in line with the runway just before touchdown.

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I have not taken the FE exam. In all honesty I wasn't planning on it. Perhaps if it's truly necessary for employment, but other than that, I don't see a need to pay for a license I'm not using. It's cool to see another person with the same degree What are your plans after your masters?
Here in WV they offer fee waivers for the FE if you can prove that you are a full time college student; so I did not have to pay for it. Having the PE certification can result in better job placement with more responsibilities. I'm currently wanting to get into the doctoral program in Industrial Engineering (since that's the department in which my professor is).
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Regarding the 1 winged landing video; I'm not sure if it's real or fake, but from an aerodynamic standpoint, it is possible (however, this does not rule out the possibility of it having been an RC aircraft). I read comments on some sites that claimed that the plane was rolling the wrong way when the wing snapped and when the plane was righted just before landing. Yet most people do not realize/know that most aerobatic aircraft have symmetric airfoils (for maneuverability) and significantly more thrust than the weight of the aircraft (allowing vertical climbs), whereas most conventional aircraft have chambered airfoils to provide better lift and stability and the thrust of the engines is only designed to counter the drag and not be greater than the weight of the plane.
It is apparent that in the moments before the wing break the aircraft was pulled into an inverted position then rolled to get it into an upright stance and during the roll the wing snapped in the direction opposite the roll. Also, during the landing the plane is brought in in a knife edge stance (common skill of stunt pilots) which is possible in an aerobatic aircraft due to the high thrust:weight ratio and relies on the thrust of the engine to keep it aloft (notice the upward angle of the fuselage) and just before landing the one can see the aileron in the upward position (seen as right due to the 90 degree orientation of the plane) which would roll the plane to the left additionally one can also hear that the engine was throttled down at the same moment as the roll which would result in the plane losing lift and dropping down to the ground.

All I'm saying is that it is physically and aerodynamically possible in an aerobatic aircraft (full size or scale RC model) so CGI would not be necessary to create such a video. Some people claim that the flight was done with an RC plane and at the moment of landing the video was blurred to transition to an actual aircraft; yet if this were the case one would notice a scale difference in the background, also, oftentimes rapid action is not easily picked up during digital conversions (either in a digital camcorder, during A/D conversions, or during video compression) and is thus blurred.

So is it possible that it actually happened? Yes
Is it possible that it was faked and/or staged? Yes
So there's bound to be arguments about the reality and with what we know ATM it's hard to state conclusively if it's real or fake



In terms of the 747 landing that WBaS posted; That is a common technique used by airline pilots during crosswind landing. A crosswind will tend to push the aircraft to the side and so the pilot must compensate to keep the plane aligned with the center of the runway. There are actually 2 techniques used. The first is to drop the wing on the windward side such that the downwind wing is producing more lift to keep the plane on course; this dictates the maximum crosswind landing conditions for the aircraft such that the wingtip and/or engines do not contact the ground during landing. The other technique (shown in the video) is to put the aircraft into a crabbed position where the nose of the plane is pointing into the wind and then yawed in line with the runway just before touchdown.



Here in WV they offer fee waivers for the FE if you can prove that you are a full time college student; so I did not have to pay for it. Having the PE certification can result in better job placement with more responsibilities. I'm currently wanting to get into the doctoral program in Industrial Engineering (since that's the department in which my professor is).
It's funny that we're having this conversation today because in about 1hr 20 minutes I have an exam in my Aircraft Stability and Control course. lol

Anyways, thanks for the informational post. I do agree with you on the video so I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought it was possible (not necessarily true however, could go either way)...
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Ima pimp yo ride dawg

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@TehPwn: LOL, I love that.

@ Syrillian. Hurry up and pre-order L4D! Look at what you're missing out on! Decapitation by shotgun. Cheeyeah.

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@TehPwn: LOL, I love that.

@ Syrillian. Hurry up and pre-order L4D! Look at what you're missing out on! Decapitation by shotgun. Cheeyeah.

Oh wow Brutal headshot

Your personal rating for that game is?...
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Oh wow Brutal headshot

Your personal rating for that game is?...
I can't count high enough to rate L4D.
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i think im going to pre-order it tonight.
can i get in on this with anyone?
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