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Hello Everyone,

It has been about a month since I assembled my computer and it has been running pretty nice lately on Windows XP Professional SP2. I have a couple questions for everyone. It is regarding my temperature readings. As you can see from my rig in my signature, I have an ABIT IP35 Pro, Q6600, Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, Antec 900, Corsair 620HX, Crucial Ballistix Tracers DDR2-800, Geforce 8800 GTS 512MB.

The problem I am having at the moment are my temperatures for my CPU. First off, I did not lapp my Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. I will probably do this within the next two months. I wanted to install the Heatsink prior to lapping it to see the margin of difference that it helps. Also, I'd like to mention that I have a 120mm x 38mm Panaflo 115CFM fan attached to my heatsink blowing air out towards the rear of the case. Here it is ( http://www.svc.com/fba12g12u.html ). I also applied Arctic Silver 5 - a medium sized line down the center of the CPU. My fan blows at 2700 RPM.

Here's my problem, my temperatures seem very high for a G0 Q6600 and Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heatsink. Actually, I am not sure what the average temperatures are for the Q6600 and would like to know what they are. For a stock heatsink, what would the Q6600 temperatures be? I am also having conflicting temperature readings. In my BIOS, it states that the temperature is 28 degrees Celcius and in the ABit Uguru it states sometimes 20-22 degrees Celcius and then in Everest and CoreTEMP it states the temperatures at a very high temp of around 33-34 degrees Celcius. Why are all of these varying in temp reading and is 33-34 degrees celcius high? =(.

I've uploaded some screenshots from my desktop as well as my heatsink (non-lapped) and a picture of my application of the arctic silver 5. With these temperature readings, it is making me wonder if i should re-seat the heatsink altogether. Please let me know what I should do if there is a problem. I've got this BIOS for my ABIT Motherboard: Award 9/06/07. Is the thermal paste that I applied too much? Is the line too thick? Should I use less thermal paste? Does that affect the temperature the most? The reason I applied a thin line is because of Arctic Silver's website instructions. Finally, do you guys think lapping the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme will make a dramatic difference?

Another thing I'd like to mention is that I turned off the Intel Enhance Speed Step and C1E feature from the BIOS CPU Features. I disabled those in order to allow the CPU to work at 2400MHZ at all times. I've also manually adjusted the memory to 4-4-4-12 Timings and adjusted the voltage to my memory to 2.2Volts. I didnt modify any voltages regarding the CPU or anything else. Oh yeah, could you guys take a look at my voltages? Could that be the source of the problem? My best guess is coming from the thermal paste / heatsink flatness. I'll probably need to LAP it i think or at least re-seat it.

Thanks so much everyone. Any kind words will be greatly appreciated.

Brian




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post #2 of 20
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By the way, these are all at completely IDLE temperatures.
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post #3 of 20
That is WAY too much thermal paste. Try a small piece of rice sized line in the middle. Also, idle temps don't matter at all as long as they aren't really high
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So do you think the Thermal Paste is the only problem? What temperatures should I be seeing with this Heatsink and this Antec 900 Case? Also, I've been reading around other topics and people have been changing their CPU Voltages a lot. Should I change mine? I dont think I should because I'm still at stock speeds. I am just concerned about my IDLE temperatures right now which is about 34 degrees Celcius.
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post #5 of 20
Start OCing and see what your temps increase too. There is no reason to be concerned about your idle temps. Download Prime95 and test it at full load on all 4 cores and let us know what your temps are.

IMHO a TRUE unlapped is one a terrible heatsink. They are not flat at all. That combined with the fact that your CPU is not flat...you get the point. My TRUE actually rocked if I sat it on a flat surface.
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when installing thermal paste use the tip of a mechanical pencil on top of the applier and make a tiny strip in the direction of the cores (see antecs website for instructions) but if you redo the thermal paste your temps will most likely drop a decent amount
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I concur that's too much thermal paste.

Check out this link to Arctic Silver's instruction sheet. This approximates the right amount to use.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._quad_wcap.pdf
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Hey one of the things I just noticed after reading an article about overclocking is that my Voltage for my CPU is set on AUTO and many times I see it running at 1.29 Volts.

I just recently read an article where a person had set his voltage at 1.112V for the stock speed of 2400MHZ frequency 9x266. Is my voltage too high? Should I manually set it at a static voltage rating or should I leave it on auto for now?

Perhaps this could also be a reason why my temps are high for IDLE? I am idle-ing 34 degrees celcius. What temperatures did you guys have at stock speeds with the Q6600?
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Originally Posted by Brianiak View Post
Hey one of the things I just noticed after reading an article about overclocking is that my Voltage for my CPU is set on AUTO and many times I see it running at 1.29 Volts.

I just recently read an article where a person had set his voltage at 1.112V for the stock speed of 2400MHZ frequency 9x266. Is my voltage too high? Should I manually set it at a static voltage rating or should I leave it on auto for now?

Perhaps this could also be a reason why my temps are high for IDLE? I am idle-ing 34 degrees celcius. What temperatures did you guys have at stock speeds with the Q6600?
That seems like an OK temperature for an idle Q6600 at stock. As most people have said, it doesn't really matter what you get at idle. It's what you get when you run Prime95 Small FFT's test. Get the latest version of that (25.5) which will stress all four cores. The tell us what coretemp reports after about 30 minutes. You should expect less then 50°, probably even less then 45°, with your heatsink on stock.

With regard to the voltage question: coretemp will report a value called VID. this is the default core voltage for your cpu. Probably 1.3 in your case if you are reading 1.29 at auto-volt. This value differs from cpu to cpu. You can try manually setting a lower voltage then this for your cpu in the bios and testing for stability as you would an overclock (8 hours Prime95 small FFT's is pretty much the gold standard in CPU stability tests). Most people don't do this, as there is usually a good reason why your default voltage was picked for your cpu (they are tested).

EDIT: I just looked at your pictures, and yes, as you can see in the coretemp screenshot the default voltage for your cpu is 1.3. And you should use less AS5. Personally I like to spread a _really_ thin layer with a credit card, but the _thin_ line approach also works well.
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Hey guys I want to thank you all for your kind suggestions and hints. You are all getting REPS.

I just did a 20 minute stress test so far with PRIME95 to see my LOAD Temperatures. I've attached a screen shot. It looks like my temperatures are 49 degrees, 44 degrees, 49 degrees, 45 degrees at LOAD. I've also noticed that my VCORE went down for some reason during the LOAD Stressing from 1.29 to 1.26 volts. I assume this is called VDROOP.

Ive come to the conclusion that the high temperatures that I may be suffering is coming from the thermal compound application (ive applied too much) and that I may need to LAP my heatsink and the base of the CPU. Within this weekend, I am going to re-seat my heatsink and re-apply the thermal paste and let you guys know how it goes.

As far as overclocking, i'll get to that later once everything is settling at a good temperature scale at stock speeds. Most likely I'll use like 7x400 for 2800MHZ overclock. That way my FSB and Memory will have a 1:1 ratio. Then i'll do some stability testing and decrease/increase the voltage accordingly. Thanks guys.

Brian
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