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Hi all.

Recently it was proposed that I build a cheapo intel rig to up my 3dmark score. 8500 is pretty bad for an overclocked 8800GT no? My current mobo is not capable of OCing. I can buy a new Athlon 6400+ black edition for a mere $169... or One with a cooler for $179.

I intend to do this unless anyone actually thinks I can make an intel switchover for less than that... from prices I've seen, it simply is not doable around the price range of buying merely one AMD CPU.

Anyway, the 6400+ is the 90 nm process. My current 4800+ is less nm's. Does this mean I need a new cooler?
Whitecrane, what kind of motherboard do you have now? That is a pretty low 3dmark06 score. Something isn't running right...
In regards to your nm question, the 65nm Brisbane uses a lower vcore and has a lower TDP.

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I've never even heard of Pentium Dual Core. That thing will OC as good as a Conroe, and end my bottlenecking of my 8800GT? I'd like to avoid Volt Modding as I have no experience with it... Volt modding is a 'hard' mod right?

My Mobo is a .proprietary HP mobo

I don't mind swapping mobo's. Heck I'd love to get a cheapo SLI mobo as 8800GT's are going to drop in price sooner or later however I don't want this all to be a waste as I'll have a CPU bottleneck.

I imagine my GPU (or someday GPU's) sitting there tapping there foot getting impatient like Sonic the hedgehog when you don't press any buttons for 20 seconds).

Would that E2180 outperform my 4800+ Would it get me the power I'm looking for?

EDIT: Is it okay that the E2180 doesn't support VT? Will that hurt me in gaming, and allow for GPU bottlenecking to continue?

EDIT 2: I've revealed I have an HP system. But don't worry about my PSU, it can handle SLI. I upgraded that thing within a week.
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post #14 of 21
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I've never even heard of Pentium Dual Core. That thing will OC as good as a Conroe, and end my bottlenecking of my 8800GT? I'd like to avoid Volt Modding as I have no experience with it... Volt modding is a 'hard' mod right?

My Mobo is a .proprietary HP mobo

I don't mind swapping mobo's. Heck I'd love to get a cheapo SLI mobo as 8800GT's are going to drop in price sooner or later however I don't want this all to be a waste as I'll have a CPU bottleneck.

I imagine my GPU (or someday GPU's) sitting there tapping there foot getting impatient like Sonic the hedgehog when you don't press any buttons for 20 seconds).

Would that E2180 outperform my 4800+ Would it get me the power I'm looking for?

EDIT: Is it okay that the E2180 doesn't support VT? Will that hurt me in gaming, and allow for GPU bottlenecking to continue?

EDIT 2: I've revealed I have an HP system. But don't worry about my PSU, it can handle SLI. I upgraded that thing within a week.
Whitecrane, you could go with a new AM2 motherboard that has overclocking options available. Honestly your 22" LCD probably doesn't help with your "bottlenecking". What resolution do you play games at?

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1680 by 1050, but am willing to play at slightly lower rez if it made much difference.

Is High rez harder on my CPU or GPU? I don't know how the rule goes with that, but I must admit Im intrigued about that E2180 competing with Conroes.

I've seen the E2180 for as little as $50

Ok, thin3r you're suggesting a new mobo, and just OC my CPU to 3.2Ghz? I dont know much about AMD chips other than they run hot and consume alot of power. Do you think I could get 3.2 Ghz out of my 4800+?

Would doing so require an expensive cooler?
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1680 by 1050, but am willing to play at slightly lower rez if it made much difference.

Is High rez harder on my CPU or GPU?

Ok, thin3r you're suggesting a new mobo, and just OC my CPU to 3.2Ghz? I dont know much about AMD chips other than they run hot and consume alot of power. Do you think I could get 3.2 Ghz out of my 4800+?

Would doing so require an expensive cooler?
White, any type of display resolution would be your video card.
Unless your referring to the AMD Athlon XP's, the newer AMD processors do not run "hot" or "consume a lot of power". If I asked you how much my rig consumes full load wattage wise, what would be your guess?
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MY guess ion wattage for ur PC would be 125 watts, or 25% more than an intel
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MY guess ion wattage for ur PC would be 125 watts, or 25% more than an intel
White, well it would be nice if it was 125watts full load. I measured it around 178watts. I really am not sure where your getting this "AMD runs hotter and consumes more power". An Intel system with a single video card probably runs about the same at full load. Idle I am around 95-100watts.
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Okay... I believe you, but I'm unable to put this knowledge to use. Do ya think my 4800+ will OC enough to increase performance and allow me to get full use from my video card?

Do you think that's better than buying the E2180 and OCing it?
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Okay... I believe you, but I'm unable to put this knowledge to use. Do ya think my 4800+ will OC enough to increase performance and allow me to get full use from my video card?

Do you think that's better than buying the E2180 and OCing it?
Whitecrane, honestly a E2180 would perform better. You would notice the difference in benchmarks for sure. A friend of mine on this board recently purchased a E8400 and got it up to 4Ghz and says it eats his Opteron 165 for breakfast. For me it doesn't matter. My Opteron 170 treats me well and gets the job done
It comes down to personal perference and budget.

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