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Hello. I recently came across a major problem. This is driving me insane... It's almost five in the morning, and I'm on my seventh Jagerbomb. I absolutely cannot figure this out. Check out my specs for a moment. I had my Koolance pump fail on me about a week ago. A disgruntled Email later, they told me that they will look at my unit. While there's no cooling blocks or tubes in my computer now, I decided to run out and buy a socket 939 cooler. I spent two days cleaning my rig and re-doing all the wiring. I have got to say, I regret not taking a picture since my wire management could have been sold as an artwork... anyhow... Everything plugged in, I got no POST. I didn't even get any beeps. I've got 4 1-Gig sticks of ram, each with status lights on 'em. What's supposed to happen is all of the lights are supposed to turn on and start flashing in a gloriously pointless display of light. Green = Bottom. Yellow = Middle. Red = Top. What happens now is that only a yellow (middle) light will turn on and then eventually turn off. Sometimes stick 1's light turns on, sometimes sticks 2 and 4's lights will turn on. It's random... but they eventually turn off. Nothing happens on the monitor. I kept turning my computer on and off, and eventually it posted. I went to BIOS to change the time and everything since I took the CMOS out... (hoping this would fix the problem). It froze while in BIOS. It hasn't POSTed since. I've tried:

-Booting only essentials (CPU, Mobo, Ram)
-Taking out CMOS again.
-Unplugging everything on mobo and plugging it back in. (I completely screwed up my beautiful wire arrangement)
-I checked the processor for any bubbling or signs of frying. (Nothing)
-I re-arranged the ram.
-Even switching the fan plugs just for ****s and giggles.

My hard drives whir when I turn my rig on, and it sounds like the actuator arm is moving, but for only a few moments.

My guess is that it's a mobo short or a bad PSU. When I get the half an hour of sleep I desire... I'll test the PSU with a voltmeter and post results... but are there any chances of anything else going wrong that I could check first? I really do not want to have to take everything apart again. If anyone could help me out, even a little... I'd be eternally grateful.
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I swear to God, this thing is out to get me! It's messin' with my mind. After my last attempt to boot this thing, I took out the plug for the case switch and used a screwdriver to turn it on. I got three beeps and all the lights on the ram came on. Then it turned off. This happened twice. Three beeps and and auto-shutoff usually means... dun dun dun... fried CPU. I plugged in the switch again, it booted AND POSTed. It's been POSTing every time I turn it on... but I'm willing to bet you that my luck will run out. At least I know that the CPU is in tact... and that nothing is fried.
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Originally Posted by Bloodrust606 View Post
I swear to God, this thing is out to get me! It's messin' with my mind. After my last attempt to boot this thing, I took out the plug for the case switch and used a screwdriver to turn it on. I got three beeps and all the lights on the ram came on. Then it turned off. This happened twice. Three beeps and and auto-shutoff usually means... dun dun dun... fried CPU. I plugged in the switch again, it booted AND POSTed. It's been POSTing every time I turn it on... but I'm willing to bet you that my luck will run out. At least I know that the CPU is in tact... and that nothing is fried.
Blood, I would start testing with a different power supply. Did you test your Antec with a multimeter yet? I highly doubt your processor is "fried" or "bubbling", that would never happen. Check to make sure every power connection is properly plugged in and snug. Take everything out of your case and place it on a non static surface and try working with it that way. Perhaps there is something in your case that is shorting your board out. Check the standoffs and make sure their right.
Here are two guides that show you how to test your PSU with a multimeter:
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/guide...ing-guide.html
http://www.devhardware.com/forums/po...est-75111.html

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post #4 of 10
try reseating the hsf+cpu
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Hehe, I'm currently trying that. I've got everything on a glass surface. I've decided to do this before test my PSU. I'm hoping it's a simple short. I noticed that the CPU cooler, when clamped down... bends my mobo slightly. I'm trying a different rear hold-n bracket to see if I could minimize the bend.
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post #6 of 10
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Early this morning, I was getting my computer to POST w/out a hitch. My luck ran out, just as I said it would. I tested the PSU with a multimeter... it's flawless. Shows no signs of failing. I just scratched my eye after eating a few 'flaming hot' cheetos. God help me.


I fixed the problem with my motherboard being curved... I put 'er on a glass table, plugged her in... and still nothing. The ram lights just turn on... then power off one by one, by one. Sometimes all four turn on, sometimes one and three... etc.

try reseating the hsf+cpu
Noobdown, mind explaining what you mean by that? For some reason I'm lost. The only thing I found online is how to reset the hsf+cpu. It's been a LONG day for me, pardon my stupidity.

I'll give that a try... see if that works.
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Ohhhh. HSF.... Heat sink fan... hahaha. I shoulda known that... but I've been running liquid cooling since '04... I didn't even know what HSF stood for. I'll try that. I'll try running 'er with the hsf resting snugly on the cpu, not clamped down on it.
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have you tried booting with just one stick of ram in? Almo0st sounds as though you timings/ voltages could be off.
    
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Yep. I've tried booting with one stick, two sticks, and all four. In different arrangements... etc. What could have caused the timings to 'jump' outta place like that? I only took my computer apart and re-assembled it.
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Oh man... I just shat bricks. Success. I went MacGyver on its ass. I tried booting with just CPU, then just ram, then with nothing, then with no CMOS battery, and then with everything again... and it worked. I'm in desktop right now... I'm getting a steady POST every time I turn 'er on. One of the times I get an error saying, 'BOOT failed, overclock setting may be improper'... something like that... fuzzy thing is that I'm not OC'ing it. I restored my BIOS to default (which it should have been already since I messed with CMOS)... and things are working fine now. I'm not out of the zombie city yet... I still need to put everything back in my case. I just hope it continues working. Strange thing is... I think it's something with the CPU and/or socket. The HSF wasn't clamped on initially when I got it working. I started clamping it down a little right when I was turning 'er on. Then all the lights on the ram flashed... and the Asus splash screen came up. I turned it off after a while and it wouldn't turn on again. I did the same (clamp down gradually while turning it on) and it works fine now. Well, thanks for all the help from you guys.

-Metal on!
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